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    The have shrunk so much that they have to use our rallies or they would have nothing to show. :P

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    The have shrunk so much that they have to use our rallies or they would have nothing to show. :P

    Yata hey
    Notice that I had the Guns Save Lives sticker on my pants leg that she had just refused to wear. Now I'm really hurt.

    I need to ask her what format her videos are in. Mine get so compressed they get fuzzy.

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    WOO, 0:41, im famous, haha

    I dont see how this film works against us. It made me feel proud to be OCing and standing up for what i believe is right

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    WOO, 0:41, im famous, haha

    I dont see how this film works against us. It made me feel proud to be OCing and standing up for what i believe is right
    It's making subtle inferences that we suggest, support, and condone violent and irresponsible acts by using sound bites and photos of quotes on t-shirts.

    To be honest, I wish people wouldn't wear shirts with stuff like the prayer from The Boondock Saints on it or the like at rallies/events/marches. While it sounds cool it's hard to take the stand that it's not meant as a promotion of vigilantism which is something commonly used against gun owners. "Oh just a bunch of wannabe vigilantes" Same sort of thing with The Punisher 1911 grips and Glock slide cover plates et al... It might all look/sound cool but given the chance it will be used against us, especially when present at rallies/marches/events where there are plenty of cameras.

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    Curtis wrote:
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    WOO, 0:41, im famous, haha

    I dont see how this film works against us. It made me feel proud to be OCing and standing up for what i believe is right
    It's making subtle inferences that we suggest, support, and condone violent and irresponsible acts by using sound bites and photos of quotes on t-shirts.

    To be honest, I wish people wouldn't wear shirts with stuff like the prayer from The Boondock Saints on it or the like at rallies/events/marches. While it sounds cool it's hard to take the stand that it's not meant as a promotion of vigilantism which is something commonly used against gun owners. "Oh just a bunch of wannabe vigilantes" Same sort of thing with The Punisher 1911 grips and Glock slide cover plates et al... It might all look/sound cool but given the chance it will be used against us, especially when present at rallies/marches/events where there are plenty of cameras.
    I think you're right Curtis. Mike said it all the other day. This is a public relations game.

    I always try to put everybody in a better light. What Lauri didn't show in her video were the people there that didn't have T shirts or statement making guns.
    I don't know if you've met Nemo, but he's one of the most respectable looking people I know. He wasn't in her video. Philip wouldn't have been if he wasn't a speaker.

    I'm also not going to try to tell anyone how to dress. That's just one of those personal things we all have to decide for themselves.

    I'm sure some members were horrified to find out I unloaded the 1911 before the event. It's just a personal call on my part though, since I knew I'd have to take it out of the holster to go in the GA building.

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    I'm very disappointed....

    I had my company t-shirt on and I didn'tsee a big close up of my shirt on the video.


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    So what I'd like to know is...

    Did all of you give her permission to use your image on her video? Shouldn't you have had to sign a release or something? If you didn't, can you demand she remove you from the video?

    I was at the Bell Tower last month - did you see the plaque on the far right when Cuccinelli was speaking? We (the DAR) put that up in March.

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    Riana wrote:
    So what I'd like to know is...

    Did all of you give her permission to use your image on her video? Shouldn't you have had to sign a release or something? If you didn't, can you demand she remove you from the video?

    I was at the Bell Tower last month - did you see the plaque on the far right when Cuccinelli was speaking? We (the DAR) put that up in March.
    It's a public place, so it's my understanding that you can photograph people and be photographed people without a release form.

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    I wanted to comment and thank them for posting such a patriotic video but, alas, couldn't find a way to do so. Are comments turned off?

    Too bad they had to show so much of Cuccinelli - with whom I disagree on nearly everything BUT guns - but it was still patriotic.
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    Curtis wrote:
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    So what I'd like to know is...

    Did all of you give her permission to use your image on her video? Shouldn't you have had to sign a release or something? If you didn't, can you demand she remove you from the video?

    I was at the Bell Tower last month - did you see the plaque on the far right when Cuccinelli was speaking? We (the DAR) put that up in March.
    It's a public place, so it's my understanding that you can photograph people and be photographed people without a release form.
    And publish it?

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    Riana wrote:
    So what I'd like to know is...

    Did all of you give her permission to use your image on her video? Shouldn't you have had to sign a release or something? If you didn't, can you demand she remove you from the video?

    I was at the Bell Tower last month - did you see the plaque on the far right when Cuccinelli was speaking? We (the DAR) put that up in March.
    It's a public place, so it's my understanding that you can photograph people and be photographed people without a release form.
    And publish it?
    Why not?

    A quick google search is saying (via another forum) that they cannot be used for advertising/commercial use or profit without a model release

    http://photo.net/business-photography-forum/00UKLq

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    Comments are "on," but you need to create an account to make them.

    Go to the home page and look in the left hand column.

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    Comments are "on," but you need to create an account to make them.

    Go to the home page and look in the left hand column.
    Nope. Not that interested. I have a personal disgust for sites that make you register before you can speak.
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    Riana wrote:
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    So what I'd like to know is...

    Did all of you give her permission to use your image on her video? Shouldn't you have had to sign a release or something? If you didn't, can you demand she remove you from the video?

    I was at the Bell Tower last month - did you see the plaque on the far right when Cuccinelli was speaking? We (the DAR) put that up in March.
    It's a public place, so it's my understanding that you can photograph people and be photographed people without a release form.
    And publish it?
    Yep...and publish it. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place.

    They are in my slide show.

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    Well, if you have a youtube account, you could comment there....if you wanted to...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf2LJ...layer_embedded

    not that you have too..... :0

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    Well, if you have a youtube account, you could comment there....if you wanted to...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf2LJ...layer_embedded

    not that you have too..... :0
    Why bother Bohdi. You won't change their minds.

    As a father, I really feel for Lori. You can't convince her that the car isn't responsible for the drunk driving it though.

    She's civil enough when she records these events. Even when I rattle her cage. I took a CLOSE UP picture of her Monday and tried to give her a Guns Save Lives sticker.
    No Screaming or even stuffiness, just a smile and no thank you.


    She, her daughter and two little fellows I've never seen before, are all in my Slideshow.


    Let her live in her little world. They aren't much more than a minor annoyance. Maybe one day she'll quit blaming the gun and thank God her daughter wasn't killed.

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    Tess wrote:
    The Donkey wrote:
    Comments are "on," but you need to create an account to make them.

    Go to the home page and look in the left hand column.
    Nope.* Not that interested.** I have a personal disgust for sites that make you register before you can speak.**
    You post here though. :P

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    im1 wrote:
    Ken hangs with the insurrectionists
    That Cuccinelli is encouraging a crowd including insurrectionist militia guys and folks calling the families of Va Tech victims "evil" is news. It may not be shocking news but it is worth taking note.

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    WOO, 0:41, im famous, haha

    I dont see how this film works against us. It made me feel proud to be OCing and standing up for what i believe is right
    It's making subtle inferences that we suggest, support, and condone violent and irresponsible acts by using sound bites and photos of quotes on t-shirts.

    To be honest, I wish people wouldn't wear shirts with stuff like the prayer from The Boondock Saints on it or the like at rallies/events/marches. While it sounds cool it's hard to take the stand that it's not meant as a promotion of vigilantism which is something commonly used against gun owners. "Oh just a bunch of wannabe vigilantes" Same sort of thing with The Punisher 1911 grips and Glock slide cover plates et al... It might all look/sound cool but given the chance it will be used against us, especially when present at rallies/marches/events where there are plenty of cameras.
    OOPS... I guess we didn't even think about what we were wearing when we went to the rally that day. The slide just before the Boondock Saints t-shirt was the back of my head. I had NO IDEA I had THAT MUCH SILVER HAIR back there!!! Why is my DHS hat a problem? I retired from DHS and wear it all the time. What point were they trying to make with that close-up photo of my silver hair and faded DHS hat?

    The next slide was my daughter Bridget wearing the Boondock Saints t-shirt and the Glock 21 on her right hip. I'll forward this thread to her and remind her that we should be more careful in planning our wardrobe when we OC.

    Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Fluckin Culpa...

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    While you're taking a break to forward it to her, make it a little bit longer and take a trip to the medicine cabinet for a Xanax. Your daughter can wear whatever the hell she wants and I can think whatever I want about.

    Your reference to silver hair and faded hat has no correlation whatsoever to the point I was making with shirts suggesting the promotion of acts of vigilantism by way of a quote from a movie that glorified it... or the same with grips, slide plate covers, et al... that do the same with The Punisher logo.

    And lastly as peter nap said:

    I'm also not going to try to tell anyone how to dress. That's just one of those personal things we all have to decide for themselves.

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    I know this video was made to attack those who support the 2nd Amendment, but I think it did a great job of providing more publicity about our rights. Thanks gun control advocates! We appreciate it!

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    I'm telling you....

    Hey, if they pull it down, let me know. I've already archived it.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    I'm telling you....

    Hey, if they pull it down, let me know. I've already archived it.
    Recognition by any other name is still recognition.

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    Lighen up, Curtis. My daughter and I discuss what we wear when we OC often. On the way to Richmond that day, she told me she thought it may not have been the best choice of t-shirts. Not a big deal. We like to set a good example when we're representing "The Movement". I carry everywhere I go (with the obvious exceptions of unlawful places). I rarely get a second look.

    Bridget, on the other hand gets :what:every time because of her stature: She's only 5' tall and carries a full size .45 cal Glock (Mod 21SF). As all women are, she is a great Ambassador for the Open Carry Movement.
    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
    (unknown 'gun~writer')

    Remington 1911 R1 (Back to Basics)
    SERPA retention or concealed...

    "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson
    (Borrowed from "The Perfect Day" by LTC Dave Grossman)

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