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    Me, the wife and my 2 girls stopped by Target tonight to pick up a new coffee pot. when we walked in, there was an "asset management" guy standing by the carts. as we didn't need a cart, we just walked on past. This guy followed us all the way to the isle that had the cofee pots and proceeded to walk past us 5 times while we were ther. we were only in target 10 minutes tops and to have this clown check us out over and over again was getting on my nerves. he once stopped and talked to another employee and after 30-45 seconds, she comes strolling down our isle looking at all the appliances on the other side of us. no one said anything and the guy was standing at the checkout lines when we left. It was in the car that the wife said " I didn't know you had your gun until I saw the guard walking past us and I looked at you." been trying to OC more and more and this is the first time I think that someone got nervous but didn't know what to do. I thought it was rather funny that he is watching me when he is armed with nothing, not even a radio. if he thinks I am a bad guy, what is he going to do about it.



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    Do exactly what you did, which is to do what you would do normally. If the gun was concealed or if you didn't have a gun. You would be shopping with your family. The only thing different is maybe you smile more.
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    I do find myself being just a little nicer to folks than maybe I would have been. nice perk to the OC movement.



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    kenzmad wrote:
    I do find myself being just a little nicer to folks than maybe I would have been. nice perk to the OC movement.



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    That's crap.

    I would definitely talk to this guy when I realized what was up. "May I help you?" "You seem to be following me." Something like that.

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    I go into that Target a lot too. I've never had security follow me around like that though.You must look really suspicious...
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    SpyderTattoo wrote:
    I go into that Target a lot too. I've never had security follow me around like that though.You must look really suspicious...
    I agree. What kind of person packs a gun while holding the hand of his wife and daughter.



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    Of course he's suspicous who in the right mind would carry a weapon to protect their loved ones with.

    I am with DeanF on this I would have asked him politely if their was something I could help him with. A good chance to educate someone on their rights.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    deanf wrote:
    That's crap.

    I would definitely talk to this guy when I realized what was up. "May I help you?"
    Someone nosey once saw me doing something they considered suspicious (geocaching).

    Person: May I help you?
    Me: Well, yes. Can you make me a sandwich?
    Person: Huh? No, uh, I want to know what you’re doing here.
    Me: So you’re not going to make me a sandwich?
    Person: Do you want me to call the police?
    Me: Sure, maybe you could make all of us a sandwich!

    Why do people ask to help you when they don't want to help you? Why would you ask to help someone you clearly don't want to help?



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    Mainsail wrote:
    Someone nosey once saw me doing something they considered suspicious (geocaching).

    Person: May I help you?
    Me: Well, yes. Can you make me a sandwich?
    Person: Huh? No, uh, I want to know what you’re doing here.
    Me: So you’re not going to make me a sandwich?
    Person: Do you want me to call the police?
    Me: Sure, maybe you could make all of us a sandwich!

    Why do people ask to help you when they don't want to help you? Why would you ask to help someone you clearly don't want to help?

    ... Will you make me a sandwich?


    Never thought to respond to such questions like that.

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    Mainsail wrote:
    deanf wrote:
    That's crap.

    I would definitely talk to this guy when I realized what was up. "May I help you?"
    Someone nosey once saw me doing something they considered suspicious (geocaching).

    Person: May I help you?
    Me: Well, yes. Can you make me a sandwich?
    Person: Huh? No, uh, I want to know what you’re doing here.
    Me: So you’re not going to make me a sandwich?
    Person: Do you want me to call the police?
    Me: Sure, maybe you could make all of us a sandwich!

    Why do people ask to help you when they don't want to help you? Why would you ask to help someone you clearly don't want to help?

    I say I have an itch in the middle of my back can you scratch it for me?

    The differance here though is OP was on private property, being followed by an employee of the property owner. Politely diffusing the situation will make it easier for the next open carrier who patronizes that business.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    I had that happen to me at Wally World. Had about 6 employees looking at me but only one followed me. I just played a game with him. I walked fast down a few rows and then stopped just around the corner, and waited. the guy walked right into me. I did that to him twice before he stopped following me. Didnt do anything different than if I wouldnt have had my firearm with me. I should have said "You found me. Now you go hide and I'll try to find you".
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    Mainsail wrote:
    deanf wrote:
    That's crap.

    I would definitely talk to this guy when I realized what was up. "May I help you?"
    Someone nosey once saw me doing something they considered suspicious (geocaching).

    Person: May I help you?
    Me: Well, yes. Can you make me a sandwich?
    Person: Huh? No, uh, I want to know what you’re doing here.
    Me: So you’re not going to make me a sandwich?
    Person: Do you want me to call the police?
    Me: Sure, maybe you could make all of us a sandwich!

    Why do people ask to help you when they don't want to help you? Why would you ask to help someone you clearly don't want to help?

    The correct response is "sudo make me a sandwich".
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    its sounds like you did the right thing. after a few trips to that store, they will be used to seeing the gun and most likely leave you alone. this also helps other people who OC.

    if you had reacted negatively to being followed, they might not let you come back or in a worst case scenario they might assume that all people who OC are going to give them a hard time.

    keep up the good work!

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    Tawnos wrote:
    The correct response is "sudo make me a sandwich".
    I'm not sure which is sadder...seeing someone make this joke, or the fact that I got it...

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    AIC869 wrote:
    Tawnos wrote:
    The correct response is "sudo make me a sandwich".
    I'm not sure which is sadder...seeing someone make this joke, or the fact that I got it...
    i dont get it!, so i am sadder....

    my answer to almost anyone, or anything they ask, is...
    i like ducks,,, do you like ducks?, can you help me find some ducks???
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    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

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    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    AIC869 wrote:
    Tawnos wrote:
    The correct response is "sudo make me a sandwich".
    I'm not sure which is sadder...seeing someone make this joke, or the fact that I got it...

    http://www.xkcd.com/149/
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    yea,, thanx ,, but that didnt help me at all!!!
    i got a high threashold ,, of i dont get it!!!

    its important to note that,,, i dosene matter if i get it!!
    maybe theres not much to get!
    do you like ducks?
    i like ducks.
    SUDO!!! make me a duck!

    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    I still don't get it either, 1245A Defender. It must be a generational thing.

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    Ajetpilot wrote:
    I still don't get it either, 1245A Defender. It must be a generational thing.
    If it is I didn't get it etheir.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    I get it ? I think?

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    Ajetpilot wrote:
    It must be a generational thing.
    Sort of. It's a computer geek thing.
    Hoplophobia is a social disease.

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    I was told to leave a couple years ago.

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    geojohn wrote:
    Ajetpilot wrote:
    It must be a generational thing.
    Sort of. It's a computer geek thing.
    Yes. Sudo is a linux command that means "Super User DO" followed by the command you want to run.
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    What?! Computers? Are you from the future?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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