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    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...-the-land.html- and keep hitting the poll!

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    Why 'Open Carry' Gun Laws Work
    Second Amendment or no, law-abiding citizens have the right to go about their business
    By John Pierce
    Posted April 15, 2010

    John Pierce, cofounder of OpenCarry.org, is a second-year student at Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minn., and holds an M.B.A. from George Mason University in Fairfax, Va.

    The phrase "open carry" refers to the act of law-abiding citizens carrying a properly holstered handgun in plain sight, wherever it is legal to do so, as they go about their daily lives. This includes such mundane tasks as driving to work, walking the dog, grabbing a cup of coffee at Starbucks, or buying a book at Barnes & Noble. Those who choose open carry are just going about their business while armed, just as do the 6 million-plus Americans who hold concealed-carry permits. The only difference—open carriers have taken their jackets off.

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    But with open carry legal in some form in 43 states, and with the practice becoming increasingly common, it is not surprising that citizens unfamiliar with the practice might have questions when they first see a neighbor carrying openly. And these questions are often directed to local law enforcement. One of our key missions at OpenCarry.org is to serve as an educational resource for citizens and law enforcement alike when such questions arise in order to insure that interactions between citizens and law enforcement respect both the rights of the citizen and the difficult job being performed by the officer. Interestingly, the increasing normality of open carry has helped to ensure that law enforcement officers across the country have been educated about its legality, rendering such encounters infrequent.

    So is open carry right for America? The answer is an unequivocal "yes!" Already present in the vast majority of states, the increasing popularity of the open-carry movement is a visible symbol that the right to bear arms remains a vital, core right of American citizens.

    Read why the proliferation of guns—even legal ones—is a danger, by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York.


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    Please feel free to post polite, profession comments refuting Rep. McCarthy's contentions about gun owners.

    Thanks!


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    There's a poll at the link. Hit it, folks!
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

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    Looks like positive comments. Also, poll at 7:50 PM was 77.78% yes.

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    jpierce wrote:
    Please feel free to post polite, profession comments refuting Rep. McCarthy's contentions about gun owners.

    Thanks!


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    Poll after my participation was.....

    1. 85.71% Yes
    2. 14.29% No

    RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
    If one is not willing to stand for his rights, he doesn't have any Rights.
    I will strive to stand for the rights of ANY person, even those folks with whom I disagree!
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    I put comments in all three places: on the page with both previews and the two pages with the complete editorials.

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    88.46%.....YES! After my vote.:celebrate

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    Should open carry of guns be legal in America?

    1. 93.81% Yes
    2. 6.19% No

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    Voted and commented.

    Ms. McCarthy makes my skin crawl. Is it just me?

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    PavePusher wrote:
    Voted and commented.

    Ms. McCarthy makes my skin crawl. Is it just me?
    No, she freaks me out too.

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    I posted my comments... rebutted her most egregrious comments.

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    1. 96.29% Yes
    2. 3.71% No
    After I voted.

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    After I voted at 9:43am Mountain time the poll results were...............................
    1. 96.4% Yes
    2. 3.6% No


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    1. 96.47% Yes
    2. 3.53% No

    After My vote...

    I See Mrs. Macarthy is actually correct in saying government should listen to the voters...

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    Should open carry of guns be legal in America?
    1. 96.56% Yes
    2. 3.44% No

    too bad we don't know how many folks took the poll. 100 voters doesn't mean much where 1,000,000 is a greater cross section of the populace.

    oh well, WE'RE WINNING!! :celebrate


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    Wow, comments are overwhelmingly in support of open carry. Not close at all.

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    In favor: 96.57%

    Opposed: 3.43%

    After reading Rep McCarthy's article, I enjoyed most of the rebuttals posted in the comments section.
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    Face off? It was calm, rational stating of facts vs emotional handwringing.

    How about McCarthy's "what happened to listening to what the voters want?" statement? I guess she's forgotten about the health care monstrosity that the majority of Americans dont want that she and her ilk rammed down our throats. A idiot and a hypocrite, whatta combo!
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    Huck wrote:
    A idiot and a hypocrite, whatta combo!
    Thus the defining elements of a Liberal.

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    1. 95.98% Yes
    2. 4.02% No



    Oh no. They are starting to gain on us. Oh, what shall we do?

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    Awesome. I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. 96.11% Yes
    2. 3.89% No
    It's okay, we caught a second wind.

    ETA: Wow, some of the anti comments don't even make sense. I mean like English grammatical sense, most of them don't make logical sense. Makes you wonder why we are the ones stereotyped as unschooled and unintelligent...
    There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away, mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting. I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing. Doomed to crumble, unless we grow and strengthen our communication. -Tool, "Schism"

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    And

    1. 96.16% Yes
    2. 3.84% No

    After my vote -YaY!

    - Well done John! - Thanks a million.

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    Should open carry of guns be legal in America?
    1. 96.21% Yes
    2. 3.79% No

    This is according to the survey NOW.

    I understand that OPEN CARRY of guns IS legal in MOST of the UNITED STATES already!
    RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
    If one is not willing to stand for his rights, he doesn't have any Rights.
    I will strive to stand for the rights of ANY person, even those folks with whom I disagree!
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    If the above makes me a RADICAL or EXTREME--- So be it!

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