Decoligny
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This dropped off the forum, but it is still good information.
This dropped off the forum, but it is still good information.
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dirtykoala
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i actually just had a question about this.
SECTION 171e:[/b] A firearm shall be deemed loaded [/b]for the purposes of Sections 171c and 171d whenever both the firearm and unexpended ammunition capable of being discharged from such firearm are in the immediate possession of the same person.[/code]NOTE: Section 171e defines loaded firearm only for Section 171c and 171d, which deal with carrying a loaded firearm on State Capitol grounds, legislative offices, offices and residences of the Governor and other constitutional officers.[/code][/code][/code]so you cant carry a .38 strong side and a mag of 9mm weak side right?[/code]
i actually just had a question about this.
SECTION 171e:[/b] A firearm shall be deemed loaded [/b]for the purposes of Sections 171c and 171d whenever both the firearm and unexpended ammunition capable of being discharged from such firearm are in the immediate possession of the same person.[/code]NOTE: Section 171e defines loaded firearm only for Section 171c and 171d, which deal with carrying a loaded firearm on State Capitol grounds, legislative offices, offices and residences of the Governor and other constitutional officers.[/code][/code][/code]so you cant carry a .38 strong side and a mag of 9mm weak side right?[/code]
CA_Libertarian
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Yep. And I could go with you and carry a 9mm strong side and a mag of .38 weak side.
And if the SHTF, we could swap ammo and both have functional firearms.
Yep. And I could go with you and carry a 9mm strong side and a mag of .38 weak side.
And if the SHTF, we could swap ammo and both have functional firearms.
dirtykoala
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I mean can not carry. The law says capable of being discharged, so the person with the .38 would be in violation whether he had .38 ammo or 9mm
I mean can not carry. The law says capable of being discharged, so the person with the .38 would be in violation whether he had .38 ammo or 9mm
Gundude
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bigtoe416 wrote:
My .357 fires .38's quite nicely. I wonder if the LEO's know that.
OOPS! They do now. :what:
bigtoe416 wrote:
My .357 fires .38's quite nicely. I wonder if the LEO's know that.
OOPS! They do now. :what:
Decoligny
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While I am no expert on revolver ammunition, I do know that there are differences between semi-auto shells and revolver shells.
A .357 revolver will accept .38 revolver ammuntion without any problems.
A 9mm semi-automatic will successfully accept and fire at least the first .380 round. It might not have enough power to rack the slide and chamber the next round though, depending on the gun.
.380 is not the same as .38 even though the diameter is exactly the same. 9mm measures the same in diameter as the .380 and the .38.
While I am no expert on revolver ammunition, I do know that there are differences between semi-auto shells and revolver shells.
A .357 revolver will accept .38 revolver ammuntion without any problems.
A 9mm semi-automatic will successfully accept and fire at least the first .380 round. It might not have enough power to rack the slide and chamber the next round though, depending on the gun.
.380 is not the same as .38 even though the diameter is exactly the same. 9mm measures the same in diameter as the .380 and the .38.
Gundude
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.38 acp (automatic colt pistol) .38 special is for revolvers.
.38 acp (automatic colt pistol) .38 special is for revolvers.
mjones
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Decoligny wrote:
Decoligny wrote:
Along the same lines, I've seen both a .40S&W HK USPc and a .40 S&W Sig P229 both happilly fire an entire magazine of 9mm. That very likely meets the definition of 'capable' too bad it doesn't say 'intended'
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OK so im a little lost, ive been a gun owner since i was kid getting my first .410. But i never knew this was legal in california. So let me get this right as a law abiding citizen i can legaly open carry my 45acp with the ammunition seperate from the gun??? And whats the deal with the tape recorder i am reading all over the fourm people keeping a tape recorder with them? Also can city law over power the state law that allows open carry? for example can a city ban open carry inside there city limits all together?
OK so im a little lost, ive been a gun owner since i was kid getting my first .410. But i never knew this was legal in california. So let me get this right as a law abiding citizen i can legaly open carry my 45acp with the ammunition seperate from the gun??? And whats the deal with the tape recorder i am reading all over the fourm people keeping a tape recorder with them? Also can city law over power the state law that allows open carry? for example can a city ban open carry inside there city limits all together?
CA_Libertarian
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turbo714 wrote:
turbo714 wrote: