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    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5727:

    [font=Arial][size=2][font=Arial][size=2][font=Arial][size=2]CALIFORNIA: Two Anti-Gun Bills Awaiting Action in Sacramento:

    Friday, April 16, 2010[font=Arial][size=2]

    Please Stand Up and Make Your Voices Heard!


    Two very serious threats to the rights of California’s law-abiding gun owners are currently pending consideration. They must be stopped at all costs.
    The Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider Assembly Bill 1934, a blatant attack on the self-defense rights of law-abiding Californians, on Tuesday, April 20. Simply put, this legislation would outlaw the open carrying of a handgun for self-defense.

    Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose AB1934. Contact information can be found at
    Assembly Public Safety Committee.[font=arial]

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    Hello Super Moderator,

    I am on it. Thanks for the link and attachment.

    The theme of my message will be topoint out thatother states arelocking-in creator granted and constitutionally guaranteedrights while ours is illegally restricting those rights. We havejudges and LEO from around the country, including CA, who are advising citizens to arm themselves.

    Also, I will remind them that in 1994 many blame the huge democratic defeats on anti-gun legislation. Do they want to add napalm to an already hot political fire? Let sleeping dogs lie.

    The safety exhibited by law-abiding citizens who carry loaded weapons from across this country is superior to the safety level of accidents had by LEO.

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    Lori Saldana is a PE major from some local San Diego college. Highly qualified to run for election, right?
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    Let it pass....courts will throw it out and then they can carry a loaded gun.

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    I made calls to all of the Public Safety Committee members today, only two of the six members, the two Republicans; Hagman and Gilmore are in opposition to the bill so far.

    It also appears that the list of members on that committee has changed recently, I know that one member on the first list that I called was no longer on the committee.

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    No offense to CA residents, but what is up with that state? They have special emission rules so auto makers have to have a special CA model. Then there is the 10 round maximum rule, etc. Many items in catalogs can't be shipped there. What/who started all of this?

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    open4years wrote:
    No offense to CA residents, but what is up with that state? They have special emission rules so auto makers have to have a special CA model. Then there is the 10 round maximum rule, etc. Many items in catalogs can't be shipped there. What/who started all of this?
    Hello open4years,

    What is wrong with Kalifornia is progressive politicians. Our government is suffering from the same neo-Marxist activism that has overtaken our federal government. We have been "progressive" for a decade now. As Kalifornia goes, so goes the nation. I would move to Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, or Florida in a heart-beat if I could. The PRK is screwed!

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    MarkBofRAdvocate wrote:
    open4years wrote:
    No offense to CA residents, but what is up with that state? They have special emission rules so auto makers have to have a special CA model. Then there is the 10 round maximum rule, etc. Many items in catalogs can't be shipped there. What/who started all of this?

    Hello open4years,

    What is wrong with Kalifornia is progressive politicians. Our government is suffering from the same neo-Marxist activism that has overtaken our federal government. We have been "progressive" for a decade now. As Kalifornia goes, so goes the nation. I would move to Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, or Florida in a heart-beat if I could. The PRK is screwed!

    markm
    Why not just cross the Colorado 'n set up camp in Arizona?

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    Sonora Rebel,

    Arizona is nice. However, the SCUBA diving and pelagic fishing opportunities abound in the Southeast. Bluefin tuna, yum! Wahoo, yum!

    thanks,

    markm

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    I moved from Kalifornia to North Carolina back in 2003 mainly b/c real estate prices are much more reasonable. It is a nice added bonus to be able to OC w/ a LOADED magazine IN the gun, and a round in the chamber

    EDIT: In relation to the OP, it is nice to see the NRA finally standing up for OPEN carry rights & not just concealed.
    Carry on!

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    Hey Ruger,

    I like the Beaufort and Moorehead City area. Raliegh/Durham is nice too.

    markm

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    Anyone know whenbill will be heard in the2d committee it got referred to?

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    I called, but they sure don't have to listen.

    No offense to CA residents, but what is up with that state? They have special emission rules so auto makers have to have a special CA model. Then there is the 10 round maximum rule, etc. Many items in catalogs can't be shipped there. What/who started all of this?
    Both houses of the legislature are controlled by liberal democrats. They can propose and posture all they want and the conservative republicans do not have the votes to stop them. Our attorney general is Jerry Brown, of all people. The governor is a liberal at heart and will not veto anti-gun bills. They can take away our rights at a whim and there is no stopping them.

    I'm sorry to offend you if you are vote democratic, but those are the facts in Kalifornia. No offense intended.
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    Tack wrote:
    The governor is a liberal at heart and will not veto anti-gun bills.
    Then how do you explain his 2008 veto of the bill to ban loaded open carry in unincorporated areas?

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    Mike wrote:
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    The governor is a liberal at heart and will not veto anti-gun bills.
    Then how do you explain his 2008 veto of the bill to ban loaded open carry in unincorporated areas?
    It's hard to explain why he does anything. He seems to throw bones to both sides occasionally.

    However this year could be a urban UOC knock out punch; as this bill doesn't apply to those areas which allow loaded firearms in public per 12031 (the target of the earlier OC ban) and the state's Police Chief Asso. says THIS is their #1 bill. Add the press UOCers have gotten in SF and I don't see him vetoing it. Hoping he does but still...

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    Then how do you explain his 2008 veto of the bill to ban loaded open carry in unincorporated areas?
    I don't explain it. We simply have the lead ammunition ban, ammunition purchase registration with thumbprint, 10 day waiting period extension to long guns (I'm not sure of the enactment date, so maybe this is pre-Arnold.), 50 BMG ban, internet sales ban, and case micro-stamp bills to weigh as well. There is also the long gun registration bill that is in the works. Would I like Arnold Schwarzenegger to do the right thing about open carry and veto the Saldana bill? You know it. Maybe we could avoid a veto override.

    I would love to be wrong about both bills. Please do me a favor and show me where I'm wrong. I could use the good news.
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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    MarkBofRAdvocate wrote:
    open4years wrote:
    No offense to CA residents, but what is up with that state? They have special emission rules so auto makers have to have a special CA model. Then there is the 10 round maximum rule, etc. Many items in catalogs can't be shipped there. What/who started all of this?

    Hello open4years,

    What is wrong with Kalifornia is progressive politicians. Our government is suffering from the same neo-Marxist activism that has overtaken our federal government. We have been "progressive" for a decade now. As Kalifornia goes, so goes the nation. I would move to Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, or Florida in a heart-beat if I could. The PRK is screwed!

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    Why not just cross the Colorado 'n set up camp in Arizona?
    As Kalifornia goes ,so goes the nation? Not any more. I am old enough to remember when California dreamin was a reality. It was a trend setting state that every young person wanted to move to. It had the seventh strongest economy in the world as a stand alone state. Now it is bankrupt. People are seeing that state and the politics attached as a negative. Very sad how a freedom loving state with a typical laid back western attitude turned into a nanny state. New Jersey with palm trees as one poster put it.

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    Shawn wrote:
    Let it pass....courts will throw it out and then they can carry a loaded gun.
    I'm sorry Shawn but your logic is skewed. Passed legislation is ALWAYS more difficult to overthrow in the courts. It may take years to even get it into the Cali Supreme Court.
    Just like the Healthcare crap now, it's going to take a long time to get it repealed.
    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Thomas Jefferson

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    I've written an in depth article on AB1934 covering the unconstitutionality of state and federal infringements of the 2nd amendment, added compelling and substantiated statistics showing that guns work and gun control doesn't, and I even examined parts of the bill on who it arms, the punishments, etc.

    Please read, please support, please spread.

    http://www.examiner.com/x-47206-Sant...is-in-jeopardy

    Thanks!

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    Anybody know when the Assembly might act on the bill next?

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    It is out of appropriations and now in its final reading before it becomes written down for floor vote. Earliest is thrusday the 20th. This is not likely.

    Assembly has until June 4 to get it thru, with enough time for public review and comment.

    Then to Senate P-safety, appropriations committees. Then floor vote. This must be down by August ?? no sure right now of date, but some time August.

    -p

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    has everyone called their rep by now and urged him to vote agianst this bill that the sponsor does not even understand?

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    any more NRA laerts on this?

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