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The Obama Administration Year One: The Flight from gun control

John Pierce

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My latest article at Examiner.com.

http://tinyurl.com/y3f9p46

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Much to the surprise of many, President Obama’s first year in office has not featured a push for new gun control legislation. In fact, not only has he not pushed for new legislation, he has actively resisted calls by gun control groups while signing legislation allowing open and concealed carry in National Parks and Wildlife Refuges as well as allowing firearms on Amtrak trains.
 

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You think maybe he has changed his agenda? - Not!

Keep your eyes and ears open - the last chapter on his reign has yet to be written.

Yata hey
 

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Agreed. I am certain that he is a diehard believer in gun control.

BUT ... he is a very astute politician and he understands a lost cause when he sees it.

It does my heart good to see Paul Helmke begging for someone to see him as still relevant. :)


John

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You think maybe he has changed his agenda? - Not!

Keep your eyes and ears open - the last chapter on his reign has yet to be written.

Yata hey
 

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jpierce wrote:
Agreed. I am certain that he is a diehard believer in gun control.

BUT ... he is a very astute politician and he understands a lost cause when he sees it.

It does my heart good to see Paul Helmke begging for someone to see him as still relevant. :)


John

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You think maybe he has changed his agenda? - Not!

Keep your eyes and ears open - the last chapter on his reign has yet to be written.

Yata hey
Back when Hillary was running, I heard someone say that she might sometimes do the right thing, not out of principle, but out of pragmatism. It appears that Obama is the same way.
 

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I read a lot of Paul Helmke's articles over at the Huffingtonpost (I know, I'm a sucker for punishment...) and see the desperation in the anti-gun crowd these days.

Just because we have not been bit, don't mean the shark ain't circling..
 

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Bill to Close Gun Show Loophole H.R.2324 is still alive and well. :(

It is loaded with problems and severe penalties.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

SPREAD FAR AND WIDE:

Mayor "I bought my last election" Bloomberg of New York is now pushing
hard for Congress to destroy gun shows across the country.

Just in case you think the threat isn't serious, here is what is in
store for America if the Mayor gets his way in Congress:

* Details of the sale, such as the type of gun, the SERIAL NUMBER,
and any other information the Attorney General may want must be
provided for guns sold by private sellers

* Any person selling a gun, be it just walking around with a gun, or
having purchased a table to sell a gun, must be registered with the
gun show AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE the show and the gun show must
provide PERSONAL INFORMATION about each private seller to the Attorney
General

* Private sellers must show photo ID to the gun show operator and
sign a log book with personal information

* The feds will now have TRUE GUN REGISTRATION information in a
database - GOODBYE FREEDOM

* If you make a mistake in all of this, you can get up to FIVE YEARS
in prison. The gun show operator also can be put in prison for
paperwork mistakes

* Gun show operators will have to register with the U.S. Attorney
General

* The Attorney General can make up regulations at will for
controlling gun show operators

* The Attorney General can charge a fee, no limit set, for a gun show
operator license

* Gun shows must get permission from the Attorney General 30 days in
advance of any show to be able to have a show

* All sales must go the the National Instant Check System

A barrage of ads and commercials is starting immediately, attempting
to push Congress to pass this legislation!

The full bill can be seen here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.2324:


Yata hey
 

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JBURGII wrote:
Just because we have not been bit, don't mean the shark ain't circling..

No kidding. We will soon see a Supreme Court nominee......
 

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Obama hasn't come after our guns yet because heIS very intelligent (a socialist, but very intelligent). Right now, he's busy taking over every key industry in the country. Once he's done that and taken control over everything financial, THEN he will come after the guns. Confiscating guns isa late step in the transformation (takeover)of a country -just look at Nazi Germany.They didn't make it illegal for the Jews to have gunsuntil 1938. Once disarmed,then they were able to exterminate them withnary ashot being fired. The disarmedJews simply marched into the gas chambers BY THE MILLIONS!
 

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I can't vouch for how smart/unsmart he might be but he is an asute politician with astute advisors. He is also a lawyer who believes the constitutional is a living document to be negotiated and interpreted. I think he is going to to try to back door legislation with treaties and than try to make the argument that we have to follow these treaties over the constitution.
 

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It is true that he is not going after the guns by way of domestic gun laws. He wants to be able to say that he is not pursuing such an agenda. What he is doing though is instructing Hilery Clinton to pursue this agenda by way of international treaty which bans "smal arms trade"
 

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OCinColorado wrote:
It is true that he is not going after the guns by way of domestic gun laws. He wants to be able to say that he is not pursuing such an agenda. What he is doing though is instructing Hilery Clinton to pursue this agenda by way of international treaty which bans "smal arms trade"
The President has no chance of getting the required 67 votes on an antigun treaty in the senate.
 

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The Donkey wrote:
OCinColorado wrote:
It is true that he is not going after the guns by way of domestic gun laws. He wants to be able to say that he is not pursuing such an agenda. What he is doing though is instructing Hilery Clinton to pursue this agenda by way of international treaty which bans "smal arms trade"
The President has no chance of getting the required 67 votes on an antigun treaty in the senate.
This is true, but when has such an obstacle stopped this USURPER from trying to get his way by any intimidating, underhanded, backdoor, corrupt means possible.
 

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Well guys there IS some poetic justice to be had here. New York Mayor und Herr Reich Protektor of Virginia Bloomberg has his shorts in a twist and is mad as hell at Obama.

It's all because Obama is going after Wall Street, where Bloomie makes that money he buys elections with.

Thus the Commander In Chief has shown his adroitness in organiing the military formation known as the "circular firing squad". :cool:
 

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Alexcabbie wrote:
Well guys there IS some poetic justice to be had here. New York Mayor und Herr Reich Protektor of Virginia Bloomberg has his shorts in a twist and is mad as hell at Obama.

It's all because Obama is going after Wall Street, where Bloomie makes that money he buys elections with.

Thus the Commander In Chief has shown his adroitness in organiing the military formation known as the "circular firing squad". :cool:
Many circular formations have a jerk in the middle of them.

Yata hey
 

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IMO, Obama only signed the National Parks law because it was attached to other legislation in that same bill (a typical tactic used by both sides of the isle) that was much more important to him. Had it been a separate issue, he probably would NOT have signed it. His arrogance doesn't seem to be the kind that would have backed down if an anti-gun bill got as far as his desk to get hissignature...as he would likely consider that happeninga 'public mandate' to sign it. Like he probably feels his election was also a mandate from the people'for change.' [HUGE numbers of stupid people in America nowadays]

So, he may be just biding his time to get anti-gun things done later on, especially if he wins a 2nd term (whichprobably WILL happen).

Consequently, don't become naive, complacentor so desperately looking for the slightest 'pro-gun' signals from anyone from the Left -- media, politicians, police chiefs, so-called celebrities -- it ain't gonna happen...and they'd be LYING if they said otherwise. Always be highly skeptical of ANYthing they say if it seems a 'softening' of their anti-gun agendaor any 'conciliatory' words/gestures. We all know where they'recoming from so don't forget it...or let them forget it, either.

It's not being paranoid, it's being prudent. And real.

-- John D.
 

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Alexcabbie wrote:
Well guys there IS some poetic justice to be had here. New York Mayor und Herr Reich Protektor of Virginia Bloomberg has his shorts in a twist and is mad as hell at Obama.

It's all because Obama is going after Wall Street, where Bloomie makes that money he buys elections with.

Thus the Commander In Chief has shown his adroitness in organiing the military formation known as the "circular firing squad". :cool:
It's an act. You do realize wallstreet wants this bill to pass, right?
 

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simmonsjoe wrote:
Alexcabbie wrote:
Well guys there IS some poetic justice to be had here. New York Mayor und Herr Reich Protektor of Virginia Bloomberg has his shorts in a twist and is mad as hell at Obama.

It's all because Obama is going after Wall Street, where Bloomie makes that money he buys elections with.

Thus the Commander In Chief has shown his adroitness in organiing the military formation known as the "circular firing squad". :cool:
It's an act. You do realize wallstreet wants this bill to pass, right?
Like they want to pass kidney stones. :uhoh:

Yata hey
 

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While I must say it would be a comfort to find out that Obama was not a megalomaniacal socialist, but rather an ordinary white-collar criminal running an elaborate scam; I do not think this is the case. I don't think all of Wall Street "wants" Obama's plans for them to come true. Just maybe Goldman-Sachs (the supposed target), as I have heard something about all this being a smoke screeen for some big monkey-shines.

Or maybe Obama is really just a common criminal at heart. Former Ill. Gov. Blagojevich wants to call Obama to testify under oath about his relationship with that Rezko guy. He may yet paint himself into Impeachment Corner.
 

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If that man in the white house's administration tries to subvert the 2A by signing some bull$hit UN arms control treaty and claiming that the US must abide by it, I, for one, will laugh in his face. :lol:
 
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