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    After attending the CC cookout this weekend and partaking of mspgunner's tasty hotdogs, I decided to take a little OC field trip.

    So, off I went to Starbucks on Hwy K in O'Fallon. No problems. A few glances at my hip, but no screams of terror and SWAT response.

    So far, so good........so why not?


    I decided to pick up a good quality bird I.D. book, so off to Barnes and Noble by Midrivers Mall I went......

    ...where I got sidetracked (as usual) and spent about two hours browsing the stacks. No problems. Just the usual glances at my hip. Walked out with my bird book and a few other novels. Didn't encounter the SWAT team there, either.

    So, since the caffeine had worn off from my previous Starbucks visit, I hit the Starbucks on Mexico Rd. (I hate this store as you have to park in aflowershop and "For Lovers Only" store parkinglot and walk for three miles if you approach it from the direction of Barnes and Noble. Either that, or make a few U-turns in traffic. I choose the three mile walk rather than the U-turns)

    Just the obligatory "hip glances" here as well.

    Yes, I could have just bought coffee at the bookstore. That wouldn't have been as much fun now, would it?

    All in all, good OC trip.


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    Yes my goodness the picnic was quite the vent to remember. Nice to see a mix of OC people and www.missouricarry folks all gather in one place to raise awarness for our 2nd amendment rights!

    Perhaps next time we'll do one ina State Park with OC, I spoke to the Mayor of Wildwood, he is looking into the concern I spoke of with the Wildwood Police and Babler Park. There are certainly other parks where this would not be a problem!

    Anyway, great food, good friends and one heck of a lot of hooping and holler'n! We'll need a bigger parking lot next time for sure!

    Thanks for coming out, we will do it up biggger and better next time, although this one was one for the record books!
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    Pretty much same experience here to. I went to both of those last weekend. I took pics for my Starbucks tour, Here's a link to the ones I've gone to so far.

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php...753&ref=mf

    I would like to invite you and anyone else who would like to join me to meet at the Starbucks in downtown Clayton. Clayton is a OC legal with CCW permit only. I will start a new post to put outmore details.

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    I have Clayton on my "Not Legal" list?



    sohighlyunlikely wrote:
    Pretty much same experience here to. I went to both of those last weekend. I took pics for my Starbucks tour, Here's a link to the ones I've gone to so far.

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php...753&ref=mf

    I would like to invite you and anyone else who would like to join me to meet at the Starbucks in downtown Clayton. Clayton is a OC legal with CCW permit only. I will start a new post to put outmore details.

    Doc

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    Did I miss something? Last I heard, OC was made "Illegal" in O'Fallon a few years ago.

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    I would say in Ofallon it is legal to OConly with a CCW. Feel free to come by the Starbucks in Ballwin today and we can talk about it. I will be OC there from 6pm to 7pm. As Ballwin's laws don't have a CCW restriction listed to OC.


    SECTION 215.250: WEAPONS -- CARRYING CONCEALED -- OTHER UNLAWFUL USE
    A. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons if he/she knowingly:

    1. Carries concealed upon or about his/her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;

    2. Sets a spring gun;

    3. Discharges or shoots a firearm, provided that the provisions of this Subsection (A) shall not apply to persons discharging a firearm in a target or archery range authorized by the City;

    4. Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner;

    5. Possesses a firearm or projectile weapon while intoxicated;

    6. Openly carries a firearm or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;

    7. Carries a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.

    B. Subparagraphs (1), (3), (4), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to or affect any of the following:

    1. All State, County and Municipal Peace Officers who have completed the training required by the Police Officer Standards and Training Commission pursuant to Sections 590.030 to 590.050, RSMo., and possessing the duty and power of arrest for violation of the general criminal laws of the State or for violation of ordinances of Counties or Municipalities of the State, whether such officers are on or off duty, and whether such officers are within or outside of the law enforcement agency's jurisdiction, or all qualified retired Peace Officers, as defined in Subsection (10) of Section 571.030, RSMo., and who carry the identification defined in Subsection (11) of Section 571.030, RSMo., or any person summoned by such officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while actually engaged in assisting such officer;

    2. Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of crime;

    3. Members of the Armed Forces or National Guard while performing their official duty;

    4. Those persons vested by Article V, Section 1 of the Constitution of Missouri with the judicial power of the State and those persons vested by Article III of the Constitution of the United States with the judicial power of the United States, the members of the Federal judiciary;

    5. Any person whose bona fide duty is to execute process, civil or criminal;

    6. Any Federal Probation Officer or Federal Flight Deck Officer as defined under the Federal Flight Deck Officer Program, 49 U.S.C. Section 44921;

    7. Any State Probation or Parole Officer, including supervisors and members of the Board of Probation and Parole;

    8. Any corporate security advisor meeting the definition and fulfilling the requirements of the regulations established by the Board of Police Commissioners under Section 84.340, RSMo.; and

    9. Any coroner, deputy coroner, medical examiner or assistant medical examiner.

    C. Subparagraphs (1), (5), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section do not apply when the actor is transporting such weapons in a non-functioning state or in an unloaded state when ammunition is not readily accessible or when such weapons are not readily accessible. Subparagraph (1) of Subsection (A) of this Section does not apply to any person twenty-one (21) years of age or older transporting a concealable firearm in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle, so long as such concealable firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed, nor when the actor is also in possession of an exposed firearm or projectile weapon for the lawful pursuit of game, or is in his/her dwelling unit or upon premises over which the actor has possession, authority or control, or is traveling in a continuous journey peaceably through this State. Subparagraph (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section does not apply if the firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed by a person while traversing school premises for the purposes of transporting a student to or from school, or possessed by an adult for the purposes of facilitation of a school-sanctioned firearm-related event.

    D. Subparagraphs (1), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to Sections 571.101 to 571.121, RSMo., or a valid permit or endorsement to carry concealed firearms issued by another State or political subdivision of another State.

    E. Subparagraphs (3), (4), (5), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to Section 563.031, RSMo.

    F. Nothing in this Section shall make it unlawful for a student to actually participate in school-sanctioned gun safety courses, student military or ROTC courses, or other school-sponsored firearm-related events, provided the student does not carry a firearm or other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any other function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.

    Note--Under certain circumstances this offense can be a felony under state law.



    Ofallon Starbucks

    Doc


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