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    I will be at the Starbucks in downtown Clayton open carrying this Sat, April 24th from 5pm till 6pm. Anyone wanting to join in, just say hi or come down to see if I get tackled by the local LEO's. Feel free to stop in. Clayton is only OC legal with a CCW. I do not claim responsibility for any heart-ship joining me may or may not cause you. This is not an official gathering just a notice of my where abouts at that time on that day.

    Doc

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    2 N Central Ave, Clayton, MO 63105........ Cross Streets: Near the intersection of N Central Ave and Forsyth Blvd

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    where is clayton in relationship of springfield? i never even heard of clayton so i assuming its some where up north?

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    Clayton is near St Louis. It is in the "belly of the beast". It is the legal center of St Louis County.

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    It was suggested I post the municipalcodes allowing OC in the city of Clayton. Here is the link to the Codes. http://codes.sullivanpublications.com/codes-slp/

    If you want to see how to get there the long way I will walk you through it. Go to the city of Clayton's home page http://www.ci.clayton.mo.us/then on the left side click "courts". On that next page on the left side click "ordinances". on the next page look for "CODE OF ORDINANCES City of CLAYTON, MISSOURI" it's in an orangish box near the center.

    OK now you are in the Sullivan Database. Click on thefolder on the left next to "Clayton". Now open the "TITTLE II" folder. Now open "Chapter 215" folder. Now open "ARTICLE VI" folder. And finally click on"SECTION 215.250". Here is the code you will see. I highlighted the important parts

    SECTION 215.250: WEAPONS -- CARRYING CONCEALED -- OTHER UNLAWFUL USE
    A. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons if he/she knowingly:

    1. Carries concealed upon or about his/her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;

    2. Sets a spring gun;

    3. Discharges or shoots a firearm;

    4. Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner;

    5. Possesses a firearm or projectile weapon while intoxicated;

    6. Openly carries a firearm or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;

    7. Carries a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.

    B. Subparagraphs (1), (3), (4), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to or affect any of the following:

    1. All State, County and Municipal Peace Officers who have completed the training required by the Police Officer Standards and Training Commission pursuant to Sections 590.030 to 590.050, RSMo., and possessing the duty and power of arrest for violation of the general criminal laws of the State or for violation of ordinances of Counties or Municipalities of the State, whether such officers are on or off duty, and whether such officers are within or outside of the law enforcement agency's jurisdiction, or all qualified retired Peace Officers, as defined in Subsection (10) of Section 571.030, RSMo., and who carry the identification defined in Subsection (11) of Section 571.030, RSMo., or any person summoned by such officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while actually engaged in assisting such officer;

    2. Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of crime;

    3. Members of the Armed Forces or National Guard while performing their official duty;

    4. Those persons vested by Article V, Section 1 of the Constitution of Missouri with the judicial power of the State and those persons vested by Article III of the Constitution of the United States with the judicial power of the United States, the members of the Federal judiciary;

    5. Any person whose bona fide duty is to execute process, civil or criminal;

    6. Any Federal Probation Officer or Federal Flight Deck Officer as defined under the Federal Flight Deck Officer Program, 49 U.S.C. Section 44921;

    7. Any State Probation or Parole Officer, including supervisors and members of the Board of Probation and Parole;

    8. Any corporate security advisor meeting the definition and fulfilling the requirements of the regulations established by the Board of Police Commissioners under Section 84.340, RSMo.; and

    9. Any coroner, deputy coroner, medical examiner or assistant medical examiner.

    C. Subparagraphs (1), (5), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section do not apply when the actor is transporting such weapons in a non-functioning state or in an unloaded state when ammunition is not readily accessible or when such weapons are not readily accessible. Subparagraph (1) of Subsection (A) of this Section does not apply to any person twenty-one (21) years of age or older transporting a concealable firearm in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle, so long as such concealable firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed, nor when the actor is also in possession of an exposed firearm or projectile weapon for the lawful pursuit of game, or is in his/her dwelling unit or upon premises over which the actor has possession, authority or control, or is traveling in a continuous journey peaceably through this State. Subparagraph (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section does not apply if the firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed by a person while traversing school premises for the purposes of transporting a student to or from school, or possessed by an adult for the purposes of facilitation of a school-sanctioned firearm-related event.

    D. Subparagraphs (1), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to Sections 571.101 to 571.121, RSMo., or a valid permit or endorsement to carry concealed firearms issued by another State or political subdivision of another State.

    E. Subparagraphs (3), (4), (5), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to Section 563.031, RSMo.

    F. Nothing in this Section shall make it unlawful for a student to actually participate in school-sanctioned gun safety courses, student military or ROTC courses, or other school-sponsored firearm-related events, provided the student does not carry a firearm or other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any other function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.

    Note--Under certain circumstances this offense can be a felony under state law.

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    I have an event for a candidate for the State Senate, you are good at this stuff.
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    My event goes till 2PM. I just may show up!



    goalseter88 wrote:
    where is clayton in relationship of springfield? i never even heard of clayton so i assuming its some where up north?
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
    I worked 24/7 for 2A OC rights! Don't like what I did? Try it yourself, it was my full time job!
    Certified NRA Range Safety Officer - RSO

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    Wrong button.... I might just come on down, this will be interesting!



    sohighlyunlikely wrote:
    I will be at the Starbucks in downtown Clayton open carrying this Sat, April 24th from 5pm till 6pm. Anyone wanting to join in, just say hi or come down to see if I get tackled by the local LEO's. Feel free to stop in. Clayton is only OC legal with a CCW. I do not claim responsibility for any heart-ship joining me may or may not cause you. This is not an official gathering just a notice of my where abouts at that time on that day.

    Doc

    Starbucks address is
    2 N Central Ave, Clayton, MO 63105........ Cross Streets: Near the intersection of N Central Ave and Forsyth Blvd
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
    I worked 24/7 for 2A OC rights! Don't like what I did? Try it yourself, it was my full time job!
    Certified NRA Range Safety Officer - RSO

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    Good idea, brother. In Alabama, we have a no firearms at Public Demonstrations law, so I just posted where I would happen to be OC'ing. Or where and when I would want some Starbucks coffee.

    That was over two months ago, and we have gathered at the same Starbucks every Sunday since. Gaining one or two members every week. Then another Alabama city started doing the same thing.

    Hopeall goes well!
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    But have his weapons to hand:
    He knows not when he may need a spear,
    Or what menace meet on the road.

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    A nice cup of Starbucks coffee will probably hit the spot about then. See ya' there.

    BTW: All I have is a voice recorder. You gonna have video capability? I might bring my camera as well if someone wouldn't mind snapping a few pics.

    Well, if you're gonna head for the belly of the beast, you might as well have some company along the way. Especially if it involves a tasty cup of Starbucks coffee.

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    Would love to be there, yet I am teaching MO/FL CCW class Saturday. Please post how this goes. I would like to join you later on a Saturday evening after our CCW classes.

    Matt
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    WWW.SOVEREIGNARMS.COM
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    sohighlyunlikely wrote:
    I will be at the Starbucks in downtown Clayton open carrying this Sat, April 24th from 5pm till 6pm. Anyone wanting to join in, just say hi or come down to see if I get tackled by the local LEO's. Feel free to stop in. Clayton is only OC legal with a CCW. I do not claim responsibility for any heart-ship joining me may or may not cause you. This is not an official gathering just a notice of my where abouts at that time on that day.

    Doc

    Starbucks address is
    2 N Central Ave, Clayton, MO 63105........ Cross Streets: Near the intersection of N Central Ave and Forsyth Blvd
    Picture's or it didn't happen!

    Just a little picture of some of our gatherings here in Seattle (the home of Starbucks)

    Be aware it is AGAINST Starbuck's policy to take photograph's inside the joint! LOL




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    The Clayton Starbucks OC went very well. As we had 2 citizenspublicly legally OC at the same placeIn urban St Louis Co for over an hour and a half. The locals were calm and friendly and a good time was had. I want to thank Superlite27 for coming out and hanging out. I plan to do another Starbucks next Sat. I will post the location as soon as I figure out which one.




















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    Well done sir!
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    Great job being the pioneer in the St. Louis area!
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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