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    Hi, sorry this will probably be a stupid question for some but I have looked for an hour now and still cannot find the specific law that states you can carry one in the chamber, open carrying, with a concealed weapons permit.Any help would be much appreciated.

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    I'm sure you've found Utah Code 76-10-505, where it says a person can't carry a loaded gun. Of course that prohibits a cartridge in the firing position (in the chamber), and where one action (like pulling the trigger) would make the gun fire.

    But then look at 76-10-523 (2), where it says that a person with a Concealed Firearms Permit is exempt from 76-10-505.

    Note also that the exemption is also for 76-10-504 (1) and (2), which means that the firearm can be concealed if you have the permit. But the law doesn't say it HAS TO BE concealed, just that concealed is an option with the permit.

    Hope this helps.


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    Lawman635 wrote:
    I have looked for an hour now and still cannot find the specific law that states you can carry one in the chamber, open carrying, with a concealed weapons permit.Any help would be much appreciated.
    You can't find it, because it's not there. :P Laws are generally restrictive, not permissive.

    Like Utah RSO stated, 76-10-505 makes it a crime to carry loaded on a public street.

    76-10-523 exempts permit holders from 76-10-505.
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    How about this:

    76-1-105. Common law crimes abolished.
    Common law crimes are abolished and no conduct is a crime unless made so by this code, other applicable statute or ordinance.
    And this:

    76-2-101. Requirements of criminal conduct and criminal responsibility.
    (1) (a) A person is not guilty of an offense unless the person's conduct is prohibited by law; and
    (b) (i) the person acts intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, with criminal negligence, or with a mental state otherwise specified in the statute defining the offense, as the definition of the offense requires; or
    (ii) the person's acts constitute an offense involving strict liability.
    (2) These standards of criminal responsibility do not apply to the violations set forth in Title 41, Chapter 6a, Traffic Code, unless specifically provided by law.

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    Yeah i saw 76-10-505, but not the other one. Thank you for all your help.

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