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    I'm not sure whether or not I should have said "is still at it" as opposed to "at it again" because I don't think there has been a recent break in displays of why it's a good idea to be armed for your own defense if you go into Richmond.

    http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/local/article/HOMIGAT24_20100424-142201/339764/
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    Police found an adult male in the parking lot of the Have a Nice Day Café suffering from a gunshot wound.
    I'm not certain whether to laugh or cry at that.

    I hope the deceased somehow put himself in the situation that precipitated his demise.

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    Knowing the clients that that place attracts I'm assuming it was mutual idiocy that predicated this situation.

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    Last time I said this I received heat. But Richmond is a CRAPHOLE. The far left in cooperation with VCU are trying hard to model it off of Detroit. Shootings are not all that rare.

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    Or Chicago. Or NYC.

    It's not a total craphole, as there are parts of it that are quite endearing and enjoyable. But they do seem determined to destroy it from within.
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    wylde007 wrote:
    Or Chicago. Or NYC.

    It's not a total craphole, as there are parts of it that are quite endearing and enjoyable. But they do seem determined to destroy it from within.
    Well for starters it is no coincidence that Richmond has competed for the most murderous city in the country for many years. It is also no coincidence that every time I drive through the city there are more and more and more bums. There are more bums in Richmond than in just about any city I've ever been to. Going to the Bottom used to be a lot of fun on the weekends. Now I think you'd have to be nuts to go down there at night. Which is apparent from this new shooting at HAND. The river is gross and I hear reports more frequently than should be the case about bodies being found in it or on the banks of it. Businesses are struggling to stay afloat meanwhile state run/funded buildings continue to expand.

    There are a few blocks here and there that are still pretty attractive and fun. But it is primarily limited to BLOCKS.

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    I still like the Bottom. There are parts of it still worth the visit... but you have to have a purpose. Just being there for the purpose of being there wouldn't make you the sharpest of knives in the drawer.

    I have several good friends that live up that way and enjoy visiting them when I can.

    But I'd never go up there unarmed.
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    wylde007 wrote:
    I still like the Bottom. There are parts of it still worth the visit... but you have to have a purpose. Just being there for the purpose of being there wouldn't make you the sharpest of knives in the drawer.

    I have several good friends that live up that way and enjoy visiting them when I can.

    But I'd never go up there unarmed.
    Yes, there are some parts of Richmond that are beautiful. I especially like the bottom at Christmas...but it is a very thin layer of beauty. Scratch the surface and it's a craphole....but I can say that about all cities.

    Richmond is just a little more likely to kill you than others.

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    lricharcm wrote:
    Last time I said this I received heat. But Richmond is a CRAPHOLE. The far left in cooperation with VCU are trying hard to model it off of Detroit. Shootings are not all that rare.
    We don't even hear 1/4 of the murders and crimes that go on in Richmond, I live in a crappy part of richmond and see some pretty crazy things regulary, and often fall alsleep to the sound of gunshots. Needless to say my gun never leaves my side (besides when vcu decides its within their rights to ignore my right to defend myself)

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    I dunno, richarcm, the fishing is pretty good.

    We caught a few dozen striped bass, some hickory shad, a few American shad, and a lot of white perch Sun. eve. A few scattered smallmouth bass also.

    Not bad for five minutes from my house.

    I did have a gun in my drybag , however. No sense being foolish.
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    riverrat10k wrote:
    I dunno, richarcm, the fishing is pretty good.

    We caught a few dozen striped bass, some hickory shad, a few American shad, and a lot of white perch Sun. eve. A few scattered smallmouth bass also.

    Not bad for five minutes from my house.

    I did have a gun in my drybag , however. No sense being foolish.
    That's terrible!

    I haven't gone fishing yet....maybe this afternoon, if it doesn't rain

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    richarcm wrote:
    wylde007 wrote:
    Or Chicago. Or NYC.

    It's not a total craphole, as there are parts of it that are quite endearing and enjoyable. But they do seem determined to destroy it from within.
    Well for starters it is no coincidence that Richmond has competed for the most murderous city in the country for many years.
    I've said plenty on Richmond with regard to my visit to VCU.

    That, and everytime I've stopped in Richmond (usually going to VA BCH or back), I get a sudden urge to start stealing things... :?
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    The murder rate in Richmond has dropped in the last few years. The bulk of it is, was, and always has been drug related, mostly turf disputes and deals gone bad. The unsung reason it was never worse is the VCU Medical System-MCV,one of the finest trauma training centers around. There are reasons that the Army sends trauma surgeons to Richmond for training rotations. Small Mouth bass in the James? Now you are fishing!
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    It's hard to keep track of all the shootings in Richmond and what's what now, seems like several are reported each day/night.

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    Curtis wrote:
    It's hard to keep track of all the shootings in Richmond and what's what now, seems like several are reported each day/night.
    And another one bites the dust:

    http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=12390154

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    Illegal immigrants/hispanics are having atough time right now as far as being robbed.
    They always have because they won't report it.

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    I lived in Richmond, worked in Richmond, and had to kill a 17yo kid trying to shoot me for the pizza I was delivering in Richmond. Richmond is a crap hole.
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    simmonsjoe wrote:
    I lived in Richmond, worked in Richmond, and had to kill a 17yo kid trying to shoot me for the pizza I was delivering in Richmond.Â* Richmond is a crap hole.
    Jeez, I can't tell if your serious but thats a pretty intense one liner of a story you have there, care to elaborate? Was this recently? Sorry to hear it but it sounds like you "did what you had to do", and thats just the way it is.

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    frenchdl wrote:
    simmonsjoe wrote:
    I lived in Richmond, worked in Richmond, and had to kill a 17yo kid trying to shoot me for the pizza I was delivering in Richmond. Richmond is a crap hole.
    Jeez, I can't tell if your serious but thats a pretty intense one liner of a story you have there, care to elaborate? Was this recently? Sorry to hear it but it sounds like you "did what you had to do", and thats just the way it is.
    Frenchdl, that's usually something that sticks with you nd not something most people like to talk about. It's enough that Joe brought it up.

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    I had to weigh in on this. The City of Richmond as a whole, is, unsafe to say the least. However, when you're talking about Richmond, that generally includes Henrico and parts of Chesterfield. Saying Richmond is crap is like the anti's saying because we own guns were all mass murderers. It's a group of bad people giving Richmond a bad name. Let's not condemn the name of Richmond based on the actions of one group of criminals. Every city, nationwide has its criminals. Richmond, unfortunately is not that big size wise, unlike many other very large cities. But Richmond has also been here a VERY long time as compared to many cities that are still in their infancy comparably. Let's remember some of the tradition and history that's here and try to focus on that rather than the negatives. We want people to stop focusing on the negative actions of criminals with guns when thinking about us, so lets give Richmond that same courtesy. She's a fine old city with lots to offer if you take the time to find it. And like any city, stay out of what you KNOW are the bad areas. We can't always fix whats happening there but we can keep ourselves from becoming part of the problem by not going there.

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    +1 well said

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    Henrico's up to 7, trying to play catch up to big brother it seems. Chesterfield's only got a couple I believe so that's good, relatively speaking. The problem with knowing and staying away from the bad areas and the bad people is that they are spreading to the good areas with the good people, which further reinforces my point of the thread: staying armed in and around the Richmond area is a definite yes in my mind.

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    I didn't say it wasn't. But again, you are only looking at the negative. You can NOT go anywhere where there is no murder. My grandmother was murdered in a county where she was the first in a long time. Still unsolved after 15 years. But you can not judge the whole city based on the actions of a few individuals. If you look for the bad in people, you are sure to find it. I just want people to look at more than a crime rate for a city that's been here since 1737.

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    Read 'em and weep.

    Richmond Violent Crime Rate per Capita


    Murder Is 6.08 times the National Average

    Forcible Rape Is 1.35 times the National Average

    Robbery s 2.68 times the National Average

    Aggravated Assault Is 1.53 times the National Average

    All Violent Crime Is 2.07 times the National Average

    http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime....d&state=VA
    http://www.cityrating.com/crimestatistics.asp

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