Tomahawk
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HankT wrote:
HankT wrote:
Hope that fixes the bad link. It had an extra ] at the end...
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NYC People Ignore Good-Samaritan Bleeding To Death
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Haz.
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Hi.
Off topic, maybe? I once confronted a guy, looked like a pimp tome,seriously bashing a woman to the floor in a take-away shop in Sydney Australia. Shock horror,only to be told by her to "F-OFF" and mind my own business? Obviously she was more ballsy than him andloved the guy and maybe she need a bashing!
Just joking now, no woman deserves a bashing, I swear. I think she was worriedI might have re-arranged his beautiful girly looks?
I would never walk by anyone lying in the streed and leave them, bleeding or not.
Haz.
Hi.
Off topic, maybe? I once confronted a guy, looked like a pimp tome,seriously bashing a woman to the floor in a take-away shop in Sydney Australia. Shock horror,only to be told by her to "F-OFF" and mind my own business? Obviously she was more ballsy than him andloved the guy and maybe she need a bashing!
Just joking now, no woman deserves a bashing, I swear. I think she was worriedI might have re-arranged his beautiful girly looks?
I would never walk by anyone lying in the streed and leave them, bleeding or not.
Haz.
GLOCK21GB
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NYC - 8 million rude people that could give a flying crap less about the next guy. This is why NYC has those anti Gun laws..because the people of the city & state don't care about anything but themselves & their own little worlds.
To New Yorkers, Chicago residents, LA & other mega population centers people just don't care about others , it's everyman for him self. F everyone else...NO UNITY.
NYC - 8 million rude people that could give a flying crap less about the next guy. This is why NYC has those anti Gun laws..because the people of the city & state don't care about anything but themselves & their own little worlds.
To New Yorkers, Chicago residents, LA & other mega population centers people just don't care about others , it's everyman for him self. F everyone else...NO UNITY.
Viorel
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One party calls for assistance, which usually results in 2 minimum showing. Once the caller finds out that her man is being apprehended, she suddenly objects &at times, the caller assaults the LEO physically. She didn't want him taken away, she just wanted him to stop.
Thank OJ for that.
But yeah, a bit off-topic.
This is actually a problem when dealing with domestic calls.
One party calls for assistance, which usually results in 2 minimum showing. Once the caller finds out that her man is being apprehended, she suddenly objects &at times, the caller assaults the LEO physically. She didn't want him taken away, she just wanted him to stop.
Thank OJ for that.
But yeah, a bit off-topic.
langzaiguy
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"Actually, I did answer your question."
Actually you deflected the question quite politically.
"Now, you're epically (sic) failing at an attempt to bait me into some kind of anti-american stance...all because I favor a (albeit ridiculous) law that forces people to be human beings. Honestly, do you need a piece of legislation to inform your necessity to wipe your backside?"
Your supposition implied the very insulting notion that the average American was inclined to ignore a victim and the average German was inclined to help. How did you respond to my legitimate question? With vicious and ridiculous accusations. It was a simple question, viorel, and you pawned the question off again. While I was looking for a competent, fruitful dialog--you were apparently more concerned with going on the defense and saving face.
As for the issue of the law, perhaps SOME Americans are hesitant to get involved with victims for fear of ridiculous lawsuits. Here in America, we don't need a nanny-state. Do we really need to legislate every single moral law? Just because this isolated event happened, does not mean that this is a persistent problem nation-wide.
"Actually, I did answer your question."
Actually you deflected the question quite politically.
"Now, you're epically (sic) failing at an attempt to bait me into some kind of anti-american stance...all because I favor a (albeit ridiculous) law that forces people to be human beings. Honestly, do you need a piece of legislation to inform your necessity to wipe your backside?"
Your supposition implied the very insulting notion that the average American was inclined to ignore a victim and the average German was inclined to help. How did you respond to my legitimate question? With vicious and ridiculous accusations. It was a simple question, viorel, and you pawned the question off again. While I was looking for a competent, fruitful dialog--you were apparently more concerned with going on the defense and saving face.
As for the issue of the law, perhaps SOME Americans are hesitant to get involved with victims for fear of ridiculous lawsuits. Here in America, we don't need a nanny-state. Do we really need to legislate every single moral law? Just because this isolated event happened, does not mean that this is a persistent problem nation-wide.
eye95
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Glock34 wrote:
I am sure that many people in NYC would've helped this man. The actions of a few dozen (whose motives we can only guess) do not represent the potential actions of 8 million people.
Furthermore, to extrapolate from NYC to the State completely ignores the significant social, cultural, demographic, etc. differences between the city and the rest of the State.
Glock34 wrote:
Targeted and insulting generalization is the kind of point I expect to be raised by the antis. I hope we are better than that.
I am sure that many people in NYC would've helped this man. The actions of a few dozen (whose motives we can only guess) do not represent the potential actions of 8 million people.
Furthermore, to extrapolate from NYC to the State completely ignores the significant social, cultural, demographic, etc. differences between the city and the rest of the State.
Deanimator
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Haz. wrote:
Haz. wrote:
Back in the early '90s, my upstairs neighbor liked to beat the crap out of his wife/girlfriend. I kept calling the cops and she kept sending them away. Finally, I saw him climb out on his ledge. I called the cops again, and one of them was a sniper I used to shoot service rifle matches with. The guy wouldn't come in and when they tried to pull him in, he kicked the cop. That was an error in judgment for him. I saw them take her down on a gurney. They took him down in cuffs, dirtier than the dirtiest Welsh coal miner. He then sat in the back of the squad car, banging his head on the side glass, a la the credits of "COPS". I never saw either of them again.
Viorel
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Honestly, if you come across a word you're not familiar with, do you look it up or do you pretend to know its meaning? Actually, based on your posts, you did neither. The message of the post was completely transparent because you suddenly had an agenda.
Later in this topic I expanded on the fact that it was the intent of the law that I favored (since obvious agendas were clouding that message). I don't have a problem clarifying statements made (which is exactly what I did), what I do have a problem with is feeble attempts to railroad my comments to fit your ugly picture.
It's funny. If I had mentioned Amsterdam in a topic concerning marijuana, responses would have been "Hell yeah, Amsterdam rocks dude!". Is that being anti-American or is that someone favoring a law in another country that fits their individual beliefs?
Honestly, do I need to link the Switzerland topic?
You do bring up a good point here. Note that I never once mentioned providing medical assistance. To be honest, I would be torn (as many others no doubt) to provide first aid simply because of lawsuits. What I was suggesting is nothing more than contacting first responders.
I answered with a statement that was my message to offer. Apologies if I didn't provide a link, I had assumed that if someone wanted to know more about Duty to Rescue, they would have Googled it themselves.
Honestly, if you come across a word you're not familiar with, do you look it up or do you pretend to know its meaning? Actually, based on your posts, you did neither. The message of the post was completely transparent because you suddenly had an agenda.
Later in this topic I expanded on the fact that it was the intent of the law that I favored (since obvious agendas were clouding that message). I don't have a problem clarifying statements made (which is exactly what I did), what I do have a problem with is feeble attempts to railroad my comments to fit your ugly picture.
I expanded and clarified my point. I believe even enough to answer your non-question, yet here you are splitting hairs because I didn't participate in your "anti" campaign.
It's funny. If I had mentioned Amsterdam in a topic concerning marijuana, responses would have been "Hell yeah, Amsterdam rocks dude!". Is that being anti-American or is that someone favoring a law in another country that fits their individual beliefs?
Honestly, do I need to link the Switzerland topic?
Thank you for finally seeing the message for what it is, not what you wanted it to be.
You do bring up a good point here. Note that I never once mentioned providing medical assistance. To be honest, I would be torn (as many others no doubt) to provide first aid simply because of lawsuits. What I was suggesting is nothing more than contacting first responders.
langzaiguy
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*Sigh* I give up. I'm not going to perpetuate a non-productive conversation. Communication falters when assumptions & accusations give way.
*Sigh* I give up. I'm not going to perpetuate a non-productive conversation. Communication falters when assumptions & accusations give way.
Viorel
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Then you shouldn't have made them.
Then you shouldn't have made them.
Tomahawk
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Viorel wrote:
Actually, you did not. Here was his question: "You still didn't answer my question. Are you supposing Germans feel a duty to respond and Americans do not?"
It's a yes or no question. Not a question for BS'ing around like a politician giving an interview. Yes or no.
3 or 2 keystrokes, very simple.
Viorel wrote:
Actually, you did not. Here was his question: "You still didn't answer my question. Are you supposing Germans feel a duty to respond and Americans do not?"
It's a yes or no question. Not a question for BS'ing around like a politician giving an interview. Yes or no.
3 or 2 keystrokes, very simple.
Brimstone Baritone
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@Tomahawk
I am not Viorel, but I've read his work
Viorel wrote:
@Tomahawk
I am not Viorel, but I've read his work
Viorel wrote:
Bold added by me. It looks like he believes the German people feel that duty no more or less than Americans. It really is a shame that they had to make a law, but I agree with eye that I wouldn't support a law requiring a person to act.
buster81
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Viorel,
Do you live in Germany?
Viorel,
Do you live in Germany?
kimbercarrier
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Yep this is why I really want to visit New York.:cuss:
Yep this is why I really want to visit New York.:cuss:
Viorel
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Thank you sir.
Sonora Rebel
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'Couple years ago there was a vid floatin' around on U-Tube of guy who was the victim of a hit 'n run on the street in Hartford, CT. The guy gets plowed 'n is just left laying in the street. People gawk... walked around him... 'n finally it appears a motorcyclist (biker) stops to help.
WTF is wrong with people?
'Couple years ago there was a vid floatin' around on U-Tube of guy who was the victim of a hit 'n run on the street in Hartford, CT. The guy gets plowed 'n is just left laying in the street. People gawk... walked around him... 'n finally it appears a motorcyclist (biker) stops to help.
WTF is wrong with people?
Pagan
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Ca Patriot wrote:
Not only Jews died at the hands of Nazis, that is something that just rubs me raw, let's just forget about all the other victims in WW2 and give special attention to Jews:?.
Many innocents died at the hands of allied forces during and AFTER the war. America sided with the communist in WW2,nobody is innocent of genocide during WW2, every damn government was killing women and children and the allies did so after the war had ended.
Not all National Socialist of Germany knew about or participated in mass killings, nor did all Allied troops know about or participate in such activites, but some on all sides did with official approval, or simply official denial.
The tribunals after the war, violated so many "human rights", as to leave a very deep black mark on any kind of rightous actions by the allied victors. Am I glad the allies won the war? Damn skippy I am. Was it done honorably on all fronts? Hell no!
Ca Patriot wrote:
Not only Jews died at the hands of Nazis, that is something that just rubs me raw, let's just forget about all the other victims in WW2 and give special attention to Jews:?.
Many innocents died at the hands of allied forces during and AFTER the war. America sided with the communist in WW2,nobody is innocent of genocide during WW2, every damn government was killing women and children and the allies did so after the war had ended.
Not all National Socialist of Germany knew about or participated in mass killings, nor did all Allied troops know about or participate in such activites, but some on all sides did with official approval, or simply official denial.
The tribunals after the war, violated so many "human rights", as to leave a very deep black mark on any kind of rightous actions by the allied victors. Am I glad the allies won the war? Damn skippy I am. Was it done honorably on all fronts? Hell no!
HankT
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Dreamer wrote:
It wasn't an easy choice, Dreamer. I was going to use preterition...
Dreamer wrote:
HankT wrote:
And for issuing a "Paralipsis Alert", I hereby award HankT with the "2-Bit Word of the Day Award."
Bravo, Hank!
It's not often that someone on an internet forum makes me pull out my dictionary...
It wasn't an easy choice, Dreamer. I was going to use preterition...