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    So I went for a quick juant through the Renton WalMart, and as I WAS LEAVING, I was asked to leave.

    Seriously, went through the check stand and payed, walked out into the lobby between the sets of doors and a "Floor Lead" comes running up telling me I have to stop, then I have to leave with my firearm, I am not allowed in the store... "I don't care what you say, GET OUT!" And that was screamed at me.

    So I informed her, that her powers of observation were so keen that she saw the firearm on my hip but apparently missed the Large Walmart bag in my hand, The reciept, AND the fact that I was already walking out the exterior doors when she stopped me to tell me to leave. "Kinda looks stupid telling someone to leave when they are going out the outside door on their way out huh?" Turned and kept on going OUT the OUT door just left her standing there working her jaw up and down with no words coming out.

    So as I was crossing in the MARKED crosswalk, I get clipped on the butt, by a little white lowered SUV with opaque tinted windows, doing like 40MPH. Actually knocked the mirror off and the Metal head stickers that were on it holding the glass in the mirror.

    I hardly felt it other then a hard stiff push to the side. No pain. I had actually seen her drive in the drive way off of Rainier avenue like a bat outta hell thinking "look at that idiot they'll kill someone in a lot like this"

    But I walked over to the car and like 5 other people followed me who had seen it. And I confronted the woman driving.

    "You know you hit me when you came flying through the parking lot coming from Rainier"
    "No I didn't I came from over there" Pointing the opposite direction.

    "No you didn't you came off rainier, turned left and cicle the parking lot, then came by the front doors where you hit me in the crosswalk."

    "No I didn't you F@!@!@ lying !@# @#@# @#@" (but now she's starting to panic)

    "So this isn't your mirror? This isn't the other half of your metalhead sticker stuck to my hip where the glass came outta the mirror, and the other half is still on your car?"

    She's getting agitated

    ME: "Oh look the break on the miror matches perfectly to your car, isn't that coincidence?"

    "F!@# YOU F!@#!# YOU F!@#!# YOU ETC ETC ETC" Gets back in her car peels out backwards, clips a witness writing down the licence number...

    "911 what are you reporting?"

    Multiple hit and runs of pedestrians in the Renton WalMart Parking Lot by one car Licence number 497-***.

    Officers are on their way.

    And so no one was seriously hurt, she was stopped way up in Rainier Valley, and arrested on Vehicular Assault , reckless driving, and several other warrants... For What you may ask...? Reckless Driving, Leaving the scene of an accident, Driving while suspended, Hit and Run, DUI, ETC ETC ETC. She has 29 outstanding warrents in all, and another dozen unconfirmed in the system, all but one was for driving issues. You would think Washington would get better with dealing with repeat offenders. Since none of the warrants were for "Violent" acts they don't receive alot of priority.

    Oh and the topper... She had an 13month old crawling around on the back floor of the car. No car seat in the car, just let him crawl freely around the car, she puts the rear seats down so he can crawl into the trunk area while she drives. I never even saw the child while at the side of the car though the tinted windows. Child is in protective custody.







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    So you wouldn't have been hit if you had not of been stopped by an employee telling you to leave because you have a firearm which corporate says you can carry in their stores?

    Hmmmm I think I would be having a serious talking to their risk management at corporate if I were in your shoes.
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    WOW simply wow.

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    joeroket wrote:
    So you wouldn't have been hit if you had not of been stopped by an employee telling you to leave because you have a firearm which corporate says you can carry in their stores?

    Hmmmm I think I would be having a serious talking to their risk management at corporate if I were in your shoes.
    That will go nowhere.

    It's not Walmart's fault that some idiot is driving around like a loony.

    To the OP: Sucky day. I'd still call their management and complain.
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    So you had to deal with two idiots that night and one of them almost killed you. Sounds like a ruff night. Glad you made it out alive and got that shameful driver off the road so they can't killsome unfortunate soul. All in all good show of restraint and bad timing which obviously couldn't be helped. I don't know what it is about people driving through parking lots going the same speed you do on a major road. But here in Lakewood I have seen people run red lights 2-3 seconds late. Talk about brave souls. I wouldn't risk it myself. Hopefully you will stop running into these idiots. And they will stop running into you. Cheers

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    killchain wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    So you wouldn't have been hit if you had not of been stopped by an employee telling you to leave because you have a firearm which corporate says you can carry in their stores?

    Hmmmm I think I would be having a serious talking to their risk management at corporate if I were in your shoes.
    That will go nowhere.

    It's not Walmart's fault that some idiot is driving around like a loony.

    To the OP: Sucky day. I'd still call their management and complain.
    You apparently missed the point of it.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    That's a crazy story. You mean that the guy with a gun got hit by a car and didn't draw his gun andshoot the driver?The lady is lucky she didn't hit a cop.

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    Yes. That just shows you that you never know when, what, or by who.
    Glad you are ok.
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    Geeez - crazy situation indeed. I am glad yourOK and not laid up in a hospital. Astounding how we with firearms can be considered the dangerous ones, when so many other idiots prove that they can be way more deadly with other, more common items, like a car. I would have asked the manager which type of person she would deem more of a liability, and more common to encounter, or if either of these types could potentially save peoples lives instead of threaten them.

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    OMG!? Never mind the gun on your hip. The toothless walmart shoppers are much more dangerous. I feel my IQ slipping every time I visit.

    P.S. Glad you didn't get hurt man.

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    Glock17 wrote:
    Glad you ... got that shameful driver off the road so they can't killsome unfortunate soul.
    ...for how frickin' long, though?

    Glad you escaped with no more than bruises (I assume).

    Did anybody outside comment on your carrying during all that?

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    That sucks. I carry in that Wallmart whenever I have to go there.
    I have also seen that little Blazer. That chick is a menace. I have seen her racing around dangerously, usually not paying attention. Sorry I kinda had a slight wish for something to happen to her. Glad it wasn't too serious for you.

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    Glad to hear your ok and kept a level head. Shoulda got the Wally world workers name so you could have her trained and get your apology.

    Wouldnt it be nice if Wa, did like Philadelphia. Revoke your tags if you let your insurance lap. I've been hit by an uninsured motorist and it turned our life upside down. Guy was driving an uninsured, expired tab truck, with no registration, on a suspended license. He slid through the stop sign and clip us on our way while we were on up 161 from Graham. My wife was 6 months pregnant and started having contractions (they were due to stress and hospital made her drink a qaurt of water and they stopped). State patrol let the guy drive his rig away and let us drive ours away, bent rim and busted tail light. Freaking Idiots behind the wheel.
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    I'd like to offer my compliments for the restraint you showed, both with the Wal-Mart Nazi and the Kamikaze Driver. The restraint you exercised by not shooting both of them. The world might be a better place without both of them but for some stupid reason YOU would then be prosecuted for your actions. For some reason the laws favor the idiots. The Wal-Mart Nazi will always be around in some form or another but why, why, why, do we not have courts that deal with the drivers like this early on. How many DUI's are now required before the driver actually gets more than an "overnight" in jail?


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    What's a metalhead sticker?
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    Wow, what a day!

    As to the Wal-Mart incident, I would contact regional in Puyallup and report that you were verbally assaulted by the so-called floor lead. Wal-Mart has a policy that should be known to all the managers by now. There is no excuse for their ignorance whatsoever.

    Wal-Mart Regional 253.770.4399

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    Mainsail wrote:
    Wow, what a day!

    As to the Wal-Mart incident, I would contact regional in Puyallup and report that you were verbally assaulted by the so-called floor lead. Wal-Mart has a policy that should be known to all the managers by now. There is no excuse for their ignorance whatsoever.

    Wal-Mart Regional 253.770.4399
    I could have sworn someone here posted a direct number and nameto someone who handles this exact problem.

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    amlevin wrote:
    I'd like to offer my compliments for the restraint you showed, both with the Wal-Mart Nazi and the Kamikaze Driver. ..."
    World War II all over again.

    Glad you're OK T.

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    Metalhead47 wrote:
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    What's a metalhead sticker?
    LOL, I bet it would look like this.




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    Son_of_Perdition wrote:
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    What's a metalhead sticker?
    LOL, I bet it would look like this.


    Not likely, I don't drive a lowered Blazer, or like an asshat
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    Metalhead47 wrote:
    Son_of_Perdition wrote:
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    What's a metalhead sticker?
    LOL, I bet it would look like this.


    Not likely, I don't drive a lowered Blazer, or like an asshat

    Oh, I didn't think it was you in the car... but your groupies are crazy :P


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    joeroket wrote:
    killchain wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    So you wouldn't have been hit if you had not of been stopped by an employee telling you to leave because you have a firearm which corporate says you can carry in their stores?

    Hmmmm I think I would be having a serious talking to their risk management at corporate if I were in your shoes.
    That will go nowhere.

    It's not Walmart's fault that some idiot is driving around like a loony.

    To the OP: Sucky day. I'd still call their management and complain.
    You apparently missed the point of it.
    I reread it.

    I see what you did there! :P
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    killchain wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    killchain wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    So you wouldn't have been hit if you had not of been stopped by an employee telling you to leave because you have a firearm which corporate says you can carry in their stores?

    Hmmmm I think I would be having a serious talking to their risk management at corporate if I were in your shoes.
    That will go nowhere.

    It's not Walmart's fault that some idiot is driving around like a loony.

    To the OP: Sucky day. I'd still call their management and complain.
    You apparently missed the point of it.
    I reread it.

    I see what you did there! :P
    Sneaky, Sneaky Sir.

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    I don't speak for Walmart while on the message boards. But coincidently I happen to be the equivilent of a Floor Lead in my home state here in Michigan and am very aware of our policy's on carry, as well as how to properly ask a customer to leave the building and or property.

    ONLY a support manager (highest hourly supervisor) or salaried manager can ask you to leave. A Floor Lead is equivilent here to a front end type management position, also called a customer service manager, and does not have the power to kick or ban.

    When a customer is asked to leave the manager doing so must first identify themselves by name and title.

    Company has no written policy on customers carrying guns I could find ever, but does give direction to stores to allow it, and also trains our loss prevention personel to leave open carriers alone and allow them to shop as long as they do so in a safe manner (a holster would be nice, we had a mexican carry customer the other day).

    There is only one way to deal with a bad experience in Walmart. Call, ask for a manager. If they do not give you what you want, which at my store would be a large shopping card and a sincere apology for the way you were treated, then ask for the name of thier immediate supervisor. You will start at a salaried manager, then go to the store manager. I doubt you will get higher. If you do get higher, it will be district or regional. Ask for the name and number of the person next in line, don't stop till you get what you want and then some. At some point, usually quickly, you will get satisfaction. Walmart managers are trained to say yes and sorry tocustomersvery well.

    good luck. If you need contact info for anyone in that store or area just give me the city and state in a PM and I can get it for you.

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    I think its a good example of "you can't legislate crazy." Even with her drivers license suspended she still got behind a drivers wheel.

    All you can really do is throw the book at someone when they endanger others.


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