So, when is it going to happen? Also, what about "Shall Issue" permit status??
GWbiker wrote:
So, when is it going to happen? Also, what about "Shall Issue" permit status??
No idea on any unlicensed open carry law. The constitutional carry bill died by a narrow vote. It will likely come up again so vote for people you think that will support such a law. Unlicensed open carry is already lawful outside city limits and on private property but you will need a permit to keep it loaded and available in your car so unload and stow while on the road.
The shall issue bill is on the governor's desk. With the legislature out of session there is a slim to none chance of a veto override if he chooses to veto or allow it to expire at the end of the week.
Is this thread also in the AZ forum?So, why do you travel to the Arizona OC subforum and preach to us on AZ OC issues when there's gun law related work to be done in Iowa?
........Also, what about "Shall Issue" permit status??
IA_farmboy wrote:
GWbiker wrote:
So, when is it going to happen? Also, what about "Shall Issue" permit status??
No idea on any unlicensed open carry law. The constitutional carry bill died by a narrow vote. It will likely come up again so vote for people you think that will support such a law. Unlicensed open carry is already lawful outside city limits and on private property but you will need a permit to keep it loaded and available in your car so unload and stow while on the road.
The shall issue bill is on the governor's desk. With the legislature out of session there is a slim to none chance of a veto override if he chooses to veto or allow it to expire at the end of the week.
Interesting.
Arizona allows legal OC without a permit and in near future legal CC without a 5 year permit. Arizona also is a "Shall Issue" CCW permit state.
So, why do you travel to the Arizona OC subforum and preach to us on AZ OC issues when there's gun law related work to be done in Iowa?
IA_farmboy wrote:
GWbiker wrote:
So, when is it going to happen? Also, what about "Shall Issue" permit status??
No idea on any unlicensed open carry law. The constitutional carry bill died by a narrow vote. It will likely come up again so vote for people you think that will support such a law. Unlicensed open carry is already lawful outside city limits and on private property but you will need a permit to keep it loaded and available in your car so unload and stow while on the road.
The shall issue bill is on the governor's desk. With the legislature out of session there is a slim to none chance of a veto override if he chooses to veto or allow it to expire at the end of the week.
Interesting.
Arizona allows legal OC without a permit and in near future legal CC without a 5 year permit. Arizona also is a "Shall Issue" CCW permit state.
So, why do you travel to the Arizona OC subforum and preach to us on AZ OC issues when there's gun law related work to be done in Iowa?
The House & Senate members knew what the vote was going to be before they voted. They all knew that the IGO bill was not going towin a majoritysosome could vote for it with no fear of it actually being passed. If the NRA and IC had pushed for the IGO bill nothing would have changed in Iowa this year. The Dems were running scared, but not that scared.In spite of the NRA, our "no compromise group," Iowa Gun Owners, heroically put a tremendous amount of pressure on the victim disarming group inDes Moines and managed to take the vote to a5 vote margin in the House, and 6 in the Senate. If the NRA and IC hadbacked the legislation, by actively engagingtheir members to lobbyfor it,these few votes would have beenpretty easy to get.
SS
Yeah . . . I see what you mean . . . why support the second amendment when the anti-gun Democrats don't?You pretty much summarize the NRA / Iowa Carry philosophy with that one . . . But thanks for the acutely perceptive "insider" political analysis . . . it is hard to believe that you don'tdo political comentary for a living!Straight_Shooter wrote:The House & Senate members knew what the vote was going to be before they voted. They all knew that the IGO bill was not going towin a majoritysosome could vote for it with no fear of it actually being passed. If the NRA and IC had pushed for the IGO bill nothing would have changed in Iowa this year. The Dems were running scared, but not that scared.In spite of the NRA, our "no compromise group," Iowa Gun Owners, heroically put a tremendous amount of pressure on the victim disarming group inDes Moines and managed to take the vote to a5 vote margin in the House, and 6 in the Senate. If the NRA and IC hadbacked the legislation, by actively engagingtheir members to lobbyfor it,these few votes would have beenpretty easy to get.
SS
By the way GW . . . you can see from the above that we have a long way to go in Iowato catch up to Arizona . . . too manygirly menin this state.Interesting.
Arizona allows legal OC without a permit and in near future legal CC without a 5 year permit. Arizona also is a "Shall Issue" CCW permit state.
So, why do you travel to the Arizona OC subforum and preach to us on AZ OC issues when there's gun law related work to be done in Iowa?
Aren't you and IGO begging for permission from the state? Why are you waiting onthe House & Senate to pass a bill for you? Sounds like an infringement to me. You're evidently just all hat and no cattle.But tell me . . . . how exactly does "you have to get training and beg for permisssion from the government to carry arms" equate to "shall not be infringed?"
Straight_Shooter wrote:Aren't you and IGO begging for permission from the state? Why are you waiting onthe House & Senate to pass a bill for you? Sounds like an infringement to me. You're evidently just all hat and no cattle.But tell me . . . . how exactly does "you have to get training and beg for permisssion from the government to carry arms" equate to "shall not be infringed?"
Just do not forget though..., Open Carry in Motor Vehicles throughout Iowa, regardless of whether or not you are in a City or Unicorporated Area, requires a Iowa Permit.
However, Iowa's Unprofessional Permits are now 'Shall-Issue' in nature.
JD:
I was unaware that the text of The 'Shall-Issue' Law becomes effective on January 1, 2011.
I will correct the omission above on my previous Thread.
aadvark
GWbiker wrote:
By the way GW . . . you can see from the above that we have a long way to go in Iowato catch up to Arizona . . . too manygirly menin this state.