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    From the Hartford Courant:
    Intended Victim Shoots Apparent Mugger



    Doug Stewart FOX CT
    2:39 p.m. EDT, April 26, 2010






    NEW HAVENA would-be mugger was shot after an argument with his intended victim Monday afternoon, witnesses said.

    New Haven police said the attempted robbery took place near St. Michael's Church, at 29 Wooster Place, shortly after 1 p.m. The person who was shot was taken to Yale-New Haven Hospital.

    Witnesses said a man in his 40s tried to mug a man in his 50s. Alexander Bragg said people in the area heard an argument and several shots. Witnesses said the intended victim shot the other man, who was attempting to rob him.

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    Considering how much I am there, I am surprised (and happy) this happened to someone other than me.

    I am also glad that (so far) this seems to have gone well for the intended victim.

    Carry on!
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    WFSB is stating the man will not be charged

    http://www.wfsb.com/news/23268006/detail.html



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    buketdude wrote:
    WFSB is stating the man will not be charged

    http://www.wfsb.com/news/23268006/detail.html

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    That is great news! I hope if he needs anything he will find us and/or the CCDL.
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    Charged? He should be refunded the cost of the 2 rounds he fired off, that needs to come out of the perp's funds. I'd make him pay for bore patches and some CLP too.

    "You caused him to expend 2 rounds at $0.50 each, and dirty his pistol so some patches and a can of CLP plus the $1 worth of ammo, that will be an even $5 please" Now put on your orange jump suit and report to bubba.

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    Darn! I was beaten on trying to post the article here. Anyway I'm sure their are going to be a lot of outragous comments left on that board.

    +1 Right to Carry

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    The thing to watch is civil suit. I'm happily surprised that he wont be charged with a crime here in CT but really hope he doesn't end up in civil court & maybe supporting the muggers family.

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    What do you suppose they mean in the Courant article (toward the end) by "Police are interviewing the intended victim and said the gun was registered and he was properly licensed to carry it."?

    Do we register our guns in CT? Or (more likely) is this a poorly written sentence?


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    Just a Guy wrote:
    What do you suppose they mean in the Courant article (toward the end) by "Police are interviewing the intended victim and said the gun was registered and he was properly licensed to carry it."?

    Do we register our guns in CT? Or (more likely) is this a poorly written sentence?
    I think they are trying to say that he has a permit and the gun is legally possessed (and not stolen or anything). Seems like most people don't understand anything about the law these days...
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    Just a Guy wrote:
    What do you suppose they mean in the Courant article (toward the end) by "Police are interviewing the intended victim and said the gun was registered and he was properly licensed to carry it."?

    Do we register our guns in CT? Or (more likely) is this a poorly written sentence?
    Whenever I purchase they make multiple copies and say that one will go to my local Police department, is that not registering?

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    How much do you want to bet that representatives from "The Laws offices of Mark E. Salomone and Morelli" , "Trantolo & Trantolo" and a few other bottom feeders have already been to this skell's bedside?

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    bradco wrote:
    Just a Guy wrote:
    What do you suppose they mean in the Courant article (toward the end) by "Police are interviewing the intended victim and said the gun was registered and he was properly licensed to carry it."?

    Do we register our guns in CT? Or (more likely) is this a poorly written sentence?
    Whenever I purchase they make multiple copies and say that one will go to my local Police department, is that not registering?
    Nope, close but registering would mean you need to inform them when you move or sold a gun etc & carry registration while carrying the gun. NYS has a registry system. Every gun is listed on your permit & its a crime to carry one not on the permit.

    When you move to CT you can simply bring your guns with you. That paperwork records the sale, nothing more, yet.

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    Leverdude wrote:
    bradco wrote:
    Just a Guy wrote:
    What do you suppose they mean in the Courant article (toward the end) by "Police are interviewing the intended victim and said the gun was registered and he was properly licensed to carry it."?

    Do we register our guns in CT? Or (more likely) is this a poorly written sentence?
    Whenever I purchase they make multiple copies and say that one will go to my local Police department, is that not registering?
    Nope, close but registering would mean you need to inform them when you move or sold a gun etc & carry registration while carrying the gun. NYS has a registry system. Every gun is listed on your permit & its a crime to carry one not on the permit.

    When you move to CT you can simply bring your guns with you. That paperwork records the sale, nothing more, yet.
    it records the sale and it is kept in records storage at the pd. they know what you have.

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    stacks04 wrote:
    it records the sale and it is kept in records storage at the pd. they know what you have.
    No, they know what you might have.
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    JohnO wrote:
    How much do you want to bet that representatives from "The Laws offices of Mark E. Salomone and Morelli" , "Trantolo & Trantolo" and a few other bottom feeders have already been to this skell's bedside?
    Well if they are, maybe I should start advertising my services for people who do a great job legally defending themselves!

    Before moving to The People's Republic of Connecticut, I lived in Memphis, TN, where folks who plugged criminals were treated like heroes and usually had their pic on the front of the newspaper. Those papers usually applauded the carrying citizens for doing a community service by whacking a bad guy. Too bad the Courant doesn't do the same, as it might have a deterrent effect (not that criminals read the paper much I suppose).

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    Funny, the same idiot arguing against me (and going down in flames) in the Courant's open carry thread is accusing this guy of being a vigilante among other things.

    http://www.courant.com/community/new...,1522536.story

    This should be entertaining...
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    GoldCoaster wrote:
    Charged? He should be refunded the cost of the 2 rounds he fired off, that needs to come out of the perp's funds. I'd make him pay for bore patches and some CLP too.

    "You caused him to expend 2 rounds at $0.50 each, and dirty his pistol so some patches and a can of CLP plus the $1 worth of ammo, that will be an even $5 please" Now put on your orange jump suit and report to bubba.
    '...2 rounds at $0.50 each...'???



    The poor guy should at least be given enough $$ to buy a box of Cor-Bon, instead of the cheap s***.







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    MGoduto wrote:
    GoldCoaster wrote:
    Charged? He should be refunded the cost of the 2 rounds he fired off, that needs to come out of the perp's funds. I'd make him pay for bore patches and some CLP too.

    "You caused him to expend 2 rounds at $0.50 each, and dirty his pistol so some patches and a can of CLP plus the $1 worth of ammo, that will be an even $5 please" Now put on your orange jump suit and report to bubba.
    '...2 rounds at $0.50 each...'???



    The poor guy should at least be given enough $$ to buy a box of Cor-Bon, instead of the cheap s***.







    mg
    i will certainly contribute to that fund

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    Its sad they took his gun and permit!! I hope he gets both back!

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    buketdude wrote:
    Its sad they took his gun and permit!! I hope he gets both back!
    It seems more than "sad!" It seems to be unconstitutional, given the fact that he is not facing any charges for neutralizing the bad guy.

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    buketdude wrote:
    Its sad they took his gun and permit!! I hope he gets both back!
    Where are you getting that information from? What right did they have to take either?
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    Here is the latest from the local paper.

    http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2...folo042810.txt

    What is funny is that nothing is being said anywhere about this story. It is so quiet all over the state. Not a thing on the news stations. They will air there stories when the guy who said he did not have a knife files a lawsuit

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    Of course that scumbag would say he didn't have a knife. The whole thing must be a big conspiracy against him.

    He was looking for this man's wallet, now he is hoping for a fat lawsuit.

    I hope the NHPD did a good job of making an airtight case against this scum. I hope his fingerprints are all over that knife.
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    The NHPD have overstepped their bounds in confiscating his gun and permit. I hope his lawyer brings swift retaliation down upon the police department for that.

    I am glad he has not been charged, but confiscation of his property is a huge insult and breach of his rights, especially after all he has been through.
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    NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- A man police said was shot during a robbery in New Haven has been arrested on charges of criminal attempt to commit robbery.

    Police said Hector Santiago, was shot Monday in what police are calling an attempted robbery.

    Police said William Kiselewsky, 65, of Southbury, shot Santiago as he tried to rob him in the area of Wooster Place . Kiselewsky’s gun was legally registered and he was not charged, police said.

    Santiago was taken to an area hospital and remained in stable condition on Wednesday.

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