Want to carry in a school zone with out fear of arrest

Correct me if I am wrong here, but I would think that if such legislation was passed it would be a good thing for OC. The reason being in my opinion it would be a sure fire case to argue under the equal protection clause.

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estcrh wrote:

barf wrote:

This thread regarding concealed carry legislation is inappropriate for an open carry site. 

Your advice to users here to retain a concealed carry permit for open carry is inappropriate. 

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Yes, I understand estcrh - you apparently lack sufficient mental capacity to back up what you say, you don't understand your rights as a citizen, and you need to ask the government for permission to carry a firearm.  All admirable traits for an inner-city Democrat from New Orleans.

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Correct me if I am wrong here, but I would think that if such legislation was passed it would be a good thing for OC. The reason being in my opinion it would be a sure fire case to argue under the equal protection clause.

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What really erks me is when people post a topic like this and you have someone get all bent cause it is not directly about open carry. It still effects us.

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Since you refuse to have an intelligent discussion, have fun in your lala land, children. 

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estcrh wrote:

XD-GEM wrote:

SB 81 passed the committee favorably and now goes to the Senate floor.

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Great news, hopefully everyone who wants to get our rights back to walk in our own neighborhoods without becoming a criminal just for legally carrying a gun will send some emails!!!

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First off... thanks XD for the update... good news...

Unfortunately, this is not getting "rights" back. This is getting permission in lieu of a right. The state of La. still thinks it can regulate Art 1 sec 11 beyond "concealed on the person".

We should definitely send the correspondence to our representatives because you fight any way you can, but the war still rages. I'm optimistic on the outcome of the war though... we seem to have some real fighters here in La.

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I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying.  I live 1050 feet from a school.  Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying.  So I do hope that these bills become law.  Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone.  The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around.  Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that. 

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns).  Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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XD-GEM wrote:

I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying. I live 1050 feet from a school. Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying. So I do hope that these bills become law. Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone. The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around. Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that.

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns). Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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People who think the they have some sort of mythical right to open carry any were they want are delusional if they think they are going to walk in one of these invisible "zones" with out any problems. This concerns ALL of us as there are schools every were both public and private.

The 2 schools near me are Catholic schools. The fact that such a law could be passed in the first place shows how easy it would be to erode our so called "rights" even further any time some politicians decide to, no matter what you think the constitution says.

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estcrh wrote:

XD-GEM wrote:

I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying.  I live 1050 feet from a school.  Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying.  So I do hope that these bills become law.  Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone.  The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around.  Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that. 

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns).  Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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People who think the they have some sort of mythical right to open carry any were they want are delusional if they think they are going to walk in one of these invisible "zones" with out any problems. This concerns ALL of us as there are schools every were both public and private.

The 2 schools near me are Catholic schools. The fact that such a law could be passed in the first place shows how easy it would be to erode our so called "rights" even further any time some politicians decide to, no matter what you think the constitution says.

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I have not seen where anyone here has stated that they have a mythical right to open carry anywhere they want - actually, quite the opposite if you read some of the posts here.  And I hardly think this concerns all of us if the bill only applies to concealed permit holders.

You seem to be out of your swim lane on this.

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Your Lawyer wrote:

estcrh wrote:

XD-GEM wrote:

I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying. I live 1050 feet from a school. Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying. So I do hope that these bills become law. Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone. The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around. Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that.

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns). Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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People who think the they have some sort of mythical right to open carry any were they want are delusional if they think they are going to walk in one of these invisible "zones" with out any problems. This concerns ALL of us as there are schools every were both public and private.

The 2 schools near me are Catholic schools. The fact that such a law could be passed in the first place shows how easy it would be to erode our so called "rights" even further any time some politicians decide to, no matter what you think the constitution says.

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I have not seen where anyone here has stated that they have a mythical right to open carry anywhere they want - actually, quite the opposite if you read some of the posts here. And I hardly think this concerns all of us if the bill only applies to concealed permit holders.

You seem to be out of your swim lane on this.

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"Just because you live in a fantasy world and need to have a master give you permission to carry a gun doesn't mean others here have to do the same." What do you call this statement?...and your right...his law only concerns people who are concerned about the rights of EVERYONE who owns or wants to own a gun..for those of you that ONLY care about your ability to open carry or your OWN personal gripe and nothing else then I suggest you just do not read or post here as this does not concern you. Your the one SWIMMING in your own little private pool with out any concern for anyone other than your self. There seems to be a never ending supply of selfish, self concerned, ignorant jerks here! Go post your own thread!

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I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying. I live 1050 feet from a school. Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying. So I do hope that these bills become law. Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone. The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around. Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that.

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns). Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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estcrh wrote:

Your Lawyer wrote:

estcrh wrote:

XD-GEM wrote:

I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying. I live 1050 feet from a school. Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying. So I do hope that these bills become law. Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone. The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around. Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that.

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns). Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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People who think the they have some sort of mythical right to open carry any were they want are delusional if they think they are going to walk in one of these invisible "zones" with out any problems. This concerns ALL of us as there are schools every were both public and private.

The 2 schools near me are Catholic schools. The fact that such a law could be passed in the first place shows how easy it would be to erode our so called "rights" even further any time some politicians decide to, no matter what you think the constitution says.

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I have not seen where anyone here has stated that they have a mythical right to open carry anywhere they want - actually, quite the opposite if you read some of the posts here. And I hardly think this concerns all of us if the bill only applies to concealed permit holders.

You seem to be out of your swim lane on this.

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"Just because you live in a fantasy world and need to have a master give you permission to carry a gun doesn't mean others here have to do the same." What do you call this statement?...and your right...his law only concerns people who are concerned about the rights of EVERYONE who owns or wants to own a gun..for those of you that ONLY care about your ability to open carry or your OWN personal gripe and nothing else then I suggest you just do not read or post here as this does not concern you. Your the one SWIMMING in your own little private pool with out any concern for anyone other than your self. There seems to be a never ending supply of selfish, self concerned, ignorant jerks here! Go post your own thread!

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By virtue of you posting on an Internet forum, you invite comments. You must realize this, correct?

The statement you provided hardly constitutes a mythical right to open carry everywhere, it simply contrasts one difference between concealed and open carry.

This is a specialized interest forum regarding open carry and you have posted an item regarding concealed carry. You should expect some lively feedback.

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XD-GEM wrote:

I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying.  I live 1050 feet from a school.  Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying.  So I do hope that these bills become law.  Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone.  The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around.  Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that. 

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns).  Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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Did anyone bring up the point that the La. state legislature does NOT have the power to regulate open carried firearms,  therefore prohibiting concealed carry near a school is a moot point?

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estcrh wrote:

Your Lawyer wrote:

estcrh wrote:

XD-GEM wrote:

I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying.  I live 1050 feet from a school.  Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying.  So I do hope that these bills become law.  Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone.  The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around.  Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that. 

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns).  Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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People who think the they have some sort of mythical right to open carry any were they want are delusional if they think they are going to walk in one of these invisible "zones" with out any problems. This concerns ALL of us as there are schools every were both public and private.

The 2 schools near me are Catholic schools. The fact that such a law could be passed in the first place shows how easy it would be to erode our so called "rights" even further any time some politicians decide to, no matter what you think the constitution says.

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I have not seen where anyone here has stated that they have a mythical right to open carry anywhere they want - actually, quite the opposite if you read some of the posts here.  And I hardly think this concerns all of us if the bill only applies to concealed permit holders.

You seem to be out of your swim lane on this.

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"Just because you live in a fantasy world and need to have a master give you permission to carry a gun doesn't mean others here have to do the same." What do you call this statement?...and your right...his law only concerns people who are concerned about the rights of EVERYONE who owns or wants to own a gun..for those of you that ONLY care about your ability to open carry or your OWN personal gripe and nothing else then I suggest you just do not read or post here as this does not concern you. Your the one SWIMMING in your own little private pool with out any concern for anyone other than your self. There seems to be a never ending supply of selfish, self concerned, ignorant jerks here! Go post your own thread!

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By virtue of you posting on an Internet forum, you invite comments.  You must realize this, correct?

The statement you provided hardly constitutes a mythical right to open carry everywhere, it simply contrasts one difference between concealed and open carry. 

This is a specialized interest forum regarding open carry and you have posted an item regarding concealed carry.  You should expect some lively feedback.

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XD-GEM wrote:

I have strongly disliked the "Firearm Free School Zone " law as long as I have been carrying. I live 1050 feet from a school. Although I can walk in front of my house without troulble, I can't walk around the block (like to walk the dog) while carrying. So I do hope that these bills become law. Perhaps some people will come to see that it is not the gun, but the person who wields it that may be a problem.

But I know we cannot convince everyone. The most ardent anti-gunners and the hopelessly hoplophobic will never come around. Anyone who watched the testimony at the House Criminal Justice Committee yesterday saw ample evidence of that.

Some of the anti-gun questions and some of the anti-gun testimony stood boldly against all arguments of logic - the finest was when the woman from the Department of Education simply ignored the fact that under current law, a gun owner whose property abuts a school can sit in his backyard facing the school and hold all of the guns he wants; and there's nothing that can be done to stop him (unless, of course, he actually threatens someone with the guns). Her reply was that she understood that but didn't want to pass a law that would bring guns any closer to children than they are now.

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Did anyone bring up the point that the La. state legislature does NOT have the power to regulate open carried firearms, therefore prohibiting concealed carry near a school is a moot point?

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