I'm sure you're right about how well my argument would be received.
WOW, someone who JUST joined in order to ATTACK me? I am truly honored!!!
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I bet you believe that you do not really have to pay income tax either....
OK:? what does that have to do with anything I said?
Ok... now, what does this have to do with the enactment of a statute that expands the privilege of concealed carry for EVERYONE with a permit?? I'm not trying to be facetious... I'm trying to get you to think.
It could be argued that the statute is permitting the carrying of a weapon within a school zone. The fact that it limits that right only to those who have a permit when other methods of carry in other places are legal could be construed as a violation of that clause.
Its one thing to believe you have a right to do something in this country...the hard part is when you have to PROVE you actually have this right in a court of law...the justice system does not always see things the same way and it takes some deep pockets to go that far. Hopefully everyone here wants this school zone to pass no matter what else they believe. I personally think that if concealed carry in a school zone is approved then eventually open carry in a school zone will follow.
There is no" limit on a right" being discussed here. It is a privilege ... per the La. Constitution, concealed carry is NOT a right. This clause of the 14th amendment is meant to insure that law is applied equally to every citizen. How would this new privilege not apply to all with the license?
The fact that there is no limit to a right is agreed. My question to you is in the premise that concealed carry or carry within a school zone is a privilege. Where in our founding documents or anywhere in our early history can you find a permit for concealed carry or any other type of carry? It does not exist.
Your first question is irrelevant. The citizens of the state of La. ratified a state constitution that provides for regulation of concealed carry. Until the 14th amendment was ratified, it was indisputable that the Constitution constrained ONLY the federal government unless otherwise expressly stated. We all know where we stand on the 14th as applied to the 2nd amendments... and we wait for the decision in the Mcdonald case.
estcrh... you make a valid point!!! The burden falls on the individual making a constitutional challenge. I invite you learn a bit about the justice system. Your ability to receive justice is more attainable than you think. You are wrong however, about the need for deep pockets. Filing fees are affordable and attorneys are not necessary for most steps of the process.
Agreed.
George...I should learn a bit about the justice system??? Did you read ANYTHING I have posted on the forum..I OPEN CARRIED in the Quarter...shot at and held an armed thug for the police,(the thug got out on $3000 bail 3 days later) my gun was confiscated and I had to get it back from the police ( no easy matter) I went to court and forced the thug to plead GUILTY,( the thug got 2 months house arrest) I then confronted Major Hosli and Lt Selby of the 8th dist police by email and at 3 different public meetings about my RIGHT to open carry until I received a PUBLIC acknowledgment that it was LEGAL....how about you..what have you done lately??? how about you open carrying in a school zone until you are arrested and you learn a bit about the justice system!!! I will be the first one to contribute to your defense... "No approval of oc in a school zone is necessary" George..ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!! You are full of big talk and I am sick of people telling everyone what rights they have or do not have when they sit at home and do NOTHING but post MISINFORMATION on a forum like they are some kind of an expert!!
NONE of us know everything and on the subject of law we are all pitifully wanting... I ALWAYS encourage EVERY citizen to make the study of law a high priority because it is our individual RESPONSIBILITY. Our fight is with the ever encroaching government... not with each other. It benefits us if we attempt to keep our emotions in check and focus on the learning process.
Agreed and I'm glad it will eventually pass here. Still, it doesn't address the issue of a citizen who is lawfull open carrying who crosses into one of these school zones unawares. He will still be inviting a felony conviction. There is no sign posted that says, "Cover your gun now. You're in a School Zone". I have a CHP and if there was such a sign I guess I could cover up but that doesn't change the fact that there isn't and so I probably won't. Cudos to Rep Wooten for sponcering this bill and I hope it's eventualy signed into law but it still leaves those of us who don't CC at risk.
At your suggestion, I've been perusing the Code of Civil Procedure. If someone were to file such a suit for declaratory judgement tossing out the "Firearm Free School Zone" law (or at least the 1000 foot zone),what court would it normally be filed in? Obviously the State of Lousiana would be named as defendant, and the State Attorney General would have to answer for the State; but would one file in the State District Court one lives in, or should such a case go straight to the State Supreme Court?