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Thanks for the explanation, Steve. To us looking at the end result of legislation, we'd never know any 'experts' were involved. But after reading your post, I feel I may be one of the people you are talking about so I think I should say something in my defense...
RE: people who post in forums but don't get involved, or, disappear when they are needed:
I've 'gotten involved' for years in variousthings...I'm not quite the wallpaper type.I HAVE written/contacted politicians (including governors and even TX US Senators...even US Presidents, Prime Ministers of other countries such asSouth Africaand Israel re: one issue or another, and the South Vietnamese Embassy in 1975 when lots of us RVN vets were trying to get back over thereto helpwhen the North invaded -- now that's involvement!), was a member of the TCDL (Texas Citizens Defense League based on the VCDL of Virginia) here in TX and even donated a fair amount of $$ to it (I don't think NM has a NMCDL -- it should). While I did not feel qualified to function in any leadership role (partly because I do not do a blase/deadpan/wishy-washy Ted Kopple very wellsince I am too 'intense' in my views (I call it passionate/action-oriented instead),I decided I MIGHT make pro-gun people look bad if *I* got to speaking in public/on TV),I thought I could at least help fund (although not rich, just a disabled vet on a fixed VA Disability income) the TCDL effort yet be out of public sight (a 'silent partner' if you will). Kind of like my view re: Christian missionaries abroad: If you won't or can't go,help/enable those who DO go!
So I tried to aid the TCDL $$-wise...until it unraveled.
I would also run for political office so I REALLY could have a way to get things done (as I have said earlier), but can't due to my 'colorful' past. And, I'm probably too honest to be a politician...and being a non-PC no-nonsense conservative, probably would never get elected, or the campaign donations even to RUN for office to find out. I have ancouraged a 'big-talker' in the TX forum to run for office, but when it comes down to it, he doesn't step up.
If I lived in NM (and might someday, 6 years from now), I'll be an even older guy (66) but still might be able to help (health permitting) by participating somehow -- if NM needs any help in 6 years (but I suspect by then NM would have just about all that can be gotten re: pro-gun laws). I visit NM once a year (my sister lives in Rio Rancho, but she is not very pro-gun and is not a 'get involved' person anyway), but since I'm not a resident of NM, or vote there, I don't see how I could be of any help OR would NM politicians be interested in anything this TX 'foreigner' has to say.Interesting: We're all supposed to be
Americans and SHOULD all have the very same civil rights -- including exercising our Constitutional right of the RKBA and the right of self-defense, regardless of what state we live in -- but it still comes down to the individual states, doesn't it. So what's the point of the "American" label? What does THAT really mean? [rhetorical questions]
Anyway, as for nowin TX, I'll just be here 2 more year at most then I'm leaving the state for good, whether OC passes or not. As I said, there is no TCDL here anymore, so apparently, even THAT wasn't doable (not enough interest or support I guess), so maybe one should conclude that the 'Great State of Texas' doesn't deserve any further help -- kind of like maybe the traditional/old America as we knew it doesn't deserve to survive if there are so many wanting PC, liberal, socialist 'change' -- so likewise, maybe the people of TX deserve what they have now because apparently that's the waythe majoritywants it. I don't know why Texans can't come up with a serious group effort as VA has demonstrated for years now, but they haven't (I'm not talking abut the TSRA (too similar to the NRA), but a grass-roots thing like VA's VCDL).
On top of that, our Governor Perry doesn't LEAD (Governor Brewer of AZ puts him to shame), and I found out yesterday he won't support similar immigration legislation to what Brewer signed...so he is proving to be useless -- we need another governor who will LEAD and support issues important to Texans (OC and stopping rampant illegal immigration here just for starters).Perry can't/won't LEAD. Like the President of the US is supposed to LEAD, I expect Governors of states to LEAD also.
If I move to repressive (gun-rights-wise) Hawaii for 3-4 years after TX, THAT state seems a lost cause even getting any bill SPONSORED, let alone voted on...but if no one else (firearms 'experts') is asked to give input on anything by the Hawaii legislature/bill sponsors, should I be living there at that time, I would be pleased to get involved (again, though, I may be too 'passionate' in supporting the pro-gun postion). Unfortunately, I'm VERY sure the Honolulu POLICE CHIEF will be asked to give testimony -- being an 'expert' of course (!) andhis 'expert testimony'would be AGAINST any CC or OC legislation for the people of Hawaii -- but I WOULD try to do my part anyway. That's 2 years from now though, and only if I decide to move there.
In short, I have gotten involved in things all my life, and have won most of those battles. Lost a few, but won most. My support of the TCDL here in TX wasn't enough, the TX legislature doesn't meet in 2010 (now THAT's wrong), and many say 2011 won't get anything done, either. I have no idea what's wrong with TX.
And as for me, maybe I have just 'gotten involved' with losing causes. I mean, trying to prevent the fall of South Vietnam didn't work out too well, did it.
Regardless, I remain a pro-gun/2nd Amendment/self-defense advocate...wherever I am.
-- John D.
P.S. I agree with you: 'Preaching to the choir' in these forumsis pretty useless, things don't change because of our 'rants' here in a vacuum, and that's one reason I have stopped posting inmost forums now. And, Isometimes wonder why I continue posting in this one, too. Sometitmes, getting banned from a forum is a blessing in disguise...