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Felony stop for OC in Philadelphia
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Pagan
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By not holding these a$$holes accountable with a full blown lawsuit and criminal charges , you do us all a great dis service.
Having a gun pointed at you is NOfreakin game! Having your rights violated is no game either, you must channel your inner pit bull tenacity, and DO NOT let this go!
By not holding these a$$holes accountable with a full blown lawsuit and criminal charges , you do us all a great dis service.
Having a gun pointed at you is NOfreakin game! Having your rights violated is no game either, you must channel your inner pit bull tenacity, and DO NOT let this go!
jahwarrior
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Pagan wrote:
are you offering to help pay for his legal expenses? no? oh, well shut up, then.
Pagan wrote:
are you offering to help pay for his legal expenses? no? oh, well shut up, then.
Pagan
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Edited - warning rule violation.
I thought I read that the OP has already spoken with or is seriously considering speaking with a lawyer, it only seems that the OP is not taking the matter as seriously as I think he should,IMO,BUT does it cost money to seek criminal charges? I don't think it does!
Edited - warning rule violation.
I thought I read that the OP has already spoken with or is seriously considering speaking with a lawyer, it only seems that the OP is not taking the matter as seriously as I think he should,IMO,BUT does it cost money to seek criminal charges? I don't think it does!
jahwarrior
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Pagan wrote:
temper, temper.
and, disservice is one word. the Grammar Nazi has spoken. so let it be written, so let it be done.
Pagan wrote:
temper, temper.
and, disservice is one word. the Grammar Nazi has spoken. so let it be written, so let it be done.
RenegadePhoenix
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RUNNINGFAST. SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS!!! I'll pay the $25.00 for you to get the report!!
RUNNINGFAST. SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS!!! I'll pay the $25.00 for you to get the report!!
runningfast
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Hey, all- there is no use in arguing with one another. There are plenty enough shortcomings in our state's various agencies- from the PPD to the more relaxed but still misinformed departments throughout Pennsylvania- to handle our energy.
I am taking this seriously. I'm doing everything that I can in what I feel is the appropriate order. I called around to several attorneys asking "What can I do? What should I do?". I came here, seeking information from people more educated and experienced in these matters than myself. And now I've taken the first steps 'with the enemy' in seeing about requesting the incident report. Once I get the report and see how it is written up I will reassess my options.
I am not taking this lightly.
However, I don't have the ACLU or the NRA backing me. I'm moving at a measured pace, discovering what effective and efficient steps I might take to remedy what happened to me.
Hey, all- there is no use in arguing with one another. There are plenty enough shortcomings in our state's various agencies- from the PPD to the more relaxed but still misinformed departments throughout Pennsylvania- to handle our energy.
I am taking this seriously. I'm doing everything that I can in what I feel is the appropriate order. I called around to several attorneys asking "What can I do? What should I do?". I came here, seeking information from people more educated and experienced in these matters than myself. And now I've taken the first steps 'with the enemy' in seeing about requesting the incident report. Once I get the report and see how it is written up I will reassess my options.
I am not taking this lightly.
However, I don't have the ACLU or the NRA backing me. I'm moving at a measured pace, discovering what effective and efficient steps I might take to remedy what happened to me.
Sig229
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Thundar wrote:
Its Pennsylvania, what you expect these people to have manners? lol
Thundar wrote:
Its Pennsylvania, what you expect these people to have manners? lol
Thundar
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Sig229 wrote:
Sig229 wrote:
If the citizen does not demand it then the public servant will not oblige. Demand a polite and courteous police force and it may happen.
Sig229
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Thundar wrote:
I agree, but I was refering to the general PA populace. I have enjoyed living in PA so far (2 years), but I have to admit, these are some of the rudest people I have ever met. NOT everyone of course.
Thundar wrote:
I agree, but I was refering to the general PA populace. I have enjoyed living in PA so far (2 years), but I have to admit, these are some of the rudest people I have ever met. NOT everyone of course.
Dreamer
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In light of the most recent news story from Philly, regarding the cop who shot himself, then made up a false report that he'd been shot by a black guy, which ended up in a Philly neighborhood being besieged for several days by Philly PD SWAT teams and K-9 Units, I would suggest that anyone in Philly who is OCing and wearing a badge is automatically suspect...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100511_Phila__officer_admits_lie_in_saying_he_was_shot.html
Leave the citizens alone--it's the badged OCers in Philly who are are criminals. I'm starting to think that Philadelphia government must work from the same "rulebook" that MD government uses. Luckily, the majority of the rest of PA is still relatively law-abiding...
Oh, an BTW, the Philly DA gave this scumbag cop immunity from prosecution for filing a false police report for his agreement to reimburse the city for the SWAT sweeps. Yeah, like that will ever happen...
If this had been a citizen, they would be in jail, and have their firearms taken away. At least they are planning to dismiss him from the department.
In light of the most recent news story from Philly, regarding the cop who shot himself, then made up a false report that he'd been shot by a black guy, which ended up in a Philly neighborhood being besieged for several days by Philly PD SWAT teams and K-9 Units, I would suggest that anyone in Philly who is OCing and wearing a badge is automatically suspect...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100511_Phila__officer_admits_lie_in_saying_he_was_shot.html
Leave the citizens alone--it's the badged OCers in Philly who are are criminals. I'm starting to think that Philadelphia government must work from the same "rulebook" that MD government uses. Luckily, the majority of the rest of PA is still relatively law-abiding...
Oh, an BTW, the Philly DA gave this scumbag cop immunity from prosecution for filing a false police report for his agreement to reimburse the city for the SWAT sweeps. Yeah, like that will ever happen...
If this had been a citizen, they would be in jail, and have their firearms taken away. At least they are planning to dismiss him from the department.
codename_47
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are you offering to help pay for his legal expenses? no? oh, well shut up, then.
It costs 350 to file in Federal. Do you really need help with that?
are you offering to help pay for his legal expenses? no? oh, well shut up, then.
It costs 350 to file in Federal. Do you really need help with that?
Deanimator
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Dreamer wrote:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/chicago-cop-accused-of-lying-to-fbi.html
Dreamer wrote:
Is there some kind of contest going on between the Philly and Chicago PDs for bragging rights over who's more corrupt, incompetent and downright criminal?
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/chicago-cop-accused-of-lying-to-fbi.html
mrjam2jab
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Dreamer wrote:
You're pretty close. Philly's Police Commissioner is Charles Ramsey. He went thru the ranks of Chicago PD before moving and becoming Chief in DC...
Dreamer wrote:
You're pretty close. Philly's Police Commissioner is Charles Ramsey. He went thru the ranks of Chicago PD before moving and becoming Chief in DC...
jahwarrior
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Sig229 wrote:
you and i need to take a road trip to NJ one of these days...
Sig229 wrote:
you and i need to take a road trip to NJ one of these days...
virginiatuck
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mrjam2jab wrote:
He's got a track record of civil rights violations and comes across as having a general disdain for the people.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/...fidavit-ramsey-ordered-pershing-park-arrests/
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5618676
Nutter and Ramsey are going to stop at nothing to pad their stats and don't care who they hurt along the way.
But another part of their plan seemed likely to anger some residents -- officers would be allowed to stop, question and frisk citizens who looked "reasonably" suspicious.
"If done right, if done well, it is a legitimate crime-fighting strategy because you are setting the public basically on notice that we are coming after illegal weapons wherever they may be," Nutter said.
mrjam2jab wrote:
Ugh; I didn't know Philly wound up with Ramsey after he resigned from DC. He used to be on the news a lot down here.
He's got a track record of civil rights violations and comes across as having a general disdain for the people.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/...fidavit-ramsey-ordered-pershing-park-arrests/
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5618676
Nutter and Ramsey are going to stop at nothing to pad their stats and don't care who they hurt along the way.
But another part of their plan seemed likely to anger some residents -- officers would be allowed to stop, question and frisk citizens who looked "reasonably" suspicious.
"If done right, if done well, it is a legitimate crime-fighting strategy because you are setting the public basically on notice that we are coming after illegal weapons wherever they may be," Nutter said.
RenegadePhoenix
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Like i posted above, i sent a check to Runningfast to get a copy of the report. it has been a month+ since the check for $25.00 was cashed and i have not had any reply to e-mails from him. Kim Stolfer and FOAC were willing to help and fight the issue, but it seems he cut and ran.
Like i posted above, i sent a check to Runningfast to get a copy of the report. it has been a month+ since the check for $25.00 was cashed and i have not had any reply to e-mails from him. Kim Stolfer and FOAC were willing to help and fight the issue, but it seems he cut and ran.
runningfast
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Phoenix,
I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I typically only post over on PAFOA.
I don't intend on giving up on this at all. It is just a waiting game at the moment.
Phoenix,
I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I typically only post over on PAFOA.
I don't intend on giving up on this at all. It is just a waiting game at the moment.
RenegadePhoenix
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Thaks for posting back, whats the word on the Police report?
Thaks for posting back, whats the word on the Police report?
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Somehow..., I did not see this sooner, but... I do not expect anything better out of Philadelphia, or Pittsburgh either, for that matter.
Pennsylvania is an oddity among the States, in my opinion, because; Pennsylvania reminds my of having New York on both sides with an Alabama in the middle.
Nevertheless, what is Law in Pennsylvania is Law, and Pennsylvania Code 18 Pa.C.S. 6108 is quite clear. It states:
No person shall carry a firearm, rifle or shotgun at any time upon the public streets or upon any public property in a city of the first class unless:
(1) such person is licensed to carry a firearm; or
(2) such person is exempt from licensing undersection 6106(b)of this title (relating to firearms not to be carried without a license).
Somehow..., I did not see this sooner, but... I do not expect anything better out of Philadelphia, or Pittsburgh either, for that matter.
Pennsylvania is an oddity among the States, in my opinion, because; Pennsylvania reminds my of having New York on both sides with an Alabama in the middle.
Nevertheless, what is Law in Pennsylvania is Law, and Pennsylvania Code 18 Pa.C.S. 6108 is quite clear. It states:
No person shall carry a firearm, rifle or shotgun at any time upon the public streets or upon any public property in a city of the first class unless:
(1) such person is licensed to carry a firearm; or
(2) such person is exempt from licensing undersection 6106(b)of this title (relating to firearms not to be carried without a license).