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    has anyone ever open carried in a job interview?

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    With the intention of actually getting the job? Or just doing it in general?

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    I open concealed carried exposesdto an interview at Express Personell. I have an IWB holster that leaves the back end of slide and grip exposed when I dont have my jacket on. They didnt even notice it till they wanted me to take the pee test. Told me to empty my pockets and I asked them about my weapon. He told me that I would either have to go put it in my car or leave it with him until I came back out and that he would be standing there the whole time. I took the holster off my belt and I put it on the table with my wallet, keys, and cell phone.
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    amzbrady wrote:
    I open concealed carried exposesdto an interview at Express Personell. I have an IWB holster that leaves the back end of slide and grip exposed when I dont have my jacket on. They didnt even notice it till they wanted me to take the pee test. Told me to empty my pockets and I asked them about my weapon. He told me that I would either have to go put it in my car or leave it with him until I came back out and that he would be standing there the whole time. I took the holster off my belt and I put it on the table with my wallet, keys, and cell phone.
    I've conceal carried while taking a U.A. before and didn't have to remove my firearm. I just unzipped my fly and let 'er rip.

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    I open concealed carried exposesdto an interview at Express Personell. I have an IWB holster that leaves the back end of slide and grip exposed when I dont have my jacket on. They didnt even notice it till they wanted me to take the pee test. Told me to empty my pockets and I asked them about my weapon. He told me that I would either have to go put it in my car or leave it with him until I came back out and that he would be standing there the whole time. I took the holster off my belt and I put it on the table with my wallet, keys, and cell phone.
    I've conceal carried while taking a U.A. before and didn't have to remove my firearm. I just unzipped my fly and let 'er rip.
    They didnt want me taking anything in the room with me. I should have told him, "It aint no squirt gun".
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    LOL Yeah, they asked me to empty my pockets too. Which I did.

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    LOL Yeah, they asked me to empty my pockets too. Which I did.
    Funny thing is, most that cheat on these test's dont have pee in their pockets.
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    LOL. It's not like they check your pockets to see if you really emptied them either.

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    I had an interview once where the interviewer was open carrying.

    I also took an off-duty physical while concealing.
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    killchain wrote:
    I had an interview once where the interviewer was open carrying.

    I also took an off-duty physical while concealing.
    Was carrying a firearm a part of your interviewer's job duties?

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    I OC'd into the state employment dept in Vancouver to apply for a position at the Camas paper mill.

    They tried to tell me that it was illegal...I trumped them by quoting the law.

    They trumped me with the fact that it was technically private property (the offices were leased from the owners of the building that used to be Tower Mall), so i wound up having to let the security guy lock it up in the security office since my rattle-trap pick-em-up truck doesn't lock.

    I got the rejection E-mail before I even got home.

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    Phssthpok wrote:
    I OC'd into the state employment dept in Vancouver to apply for a position at the Camas paper mill.

    They tried to tell me that it was illegal...I trumped them by quoting the law.

    They trumped me with the fact that it was technically private property (the offices were leased from the owners of the building that used to be Tower Mall), so i wound up having to let the security guy lock it up in the security office since my rattle-trap pick-em-up truck doesn't lock.

    I got the rejection E-mail before I even got home.
    From my understanding they pulled a bluff on you and you folded.

    They are a state agency and do have authority to enact rules and regulations for the operation of their department but they do not have the authority to enact restrictions that are prohibited by out WA State Constitution and State Law.

    The other issue of carrying while conducting an interview, why? Do you want a job and yet you will introduce something that will likely slam the door in your face.

    Can you not do more good employed and drawing an income and fighting for your rights then being unemployed and sitting around all day?
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    IMHO there was no bluff. The security guard ( unarmed <rolleyes> ) was employed by the property owners and it was HE that informed me of the restriction. I'm all about holding the state's feet to the fire of the law, but I am also just as dedicated to supporting and honoring private property rights.

    Had the state PURCHASED the building formerly known as Tower mall, then I would have stood my ground. However, ownership of the building is indeed still held by a private entity.

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    Well- yeah
    But since the job was executive security, whether it was expected or just accepted, it was welcomed.
    And yeah, got the PT job

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    Can you not do more good employed and drawing an income and fighting for your rights then being unemployed and sitting around all day?
    I'm hoping to find this out. After 15 months unemployed, I'm starting a new job this week!:celebrate

    I did not carry to the interview.
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    Phssthpok wrote:
    IMHO there was no bluff. The security guard ( unarmed <rolleyes> ) was employed by the property owners and it was HE that informed me of the restriction. I'm all about holding the state's feet to the fire of the law, but I am also just as dedicated to supporting and honoring private property rights.

    Had the state PURCHASED the building formerly known as Tower mall, then I would have stood my ground. However, ownership of the building is indeed still held by a private entity.
    Hmm lets see here the State Employment Security Department is guarded by a private guard hired by the property owner!

    Is this in a building that houses other businesses as a mall ? Is the guard in the Employment Security Office?

    Any Employment Security I have seen is in a stand alone building and no guards and even if there was the Employment Security Department does not have the authority to circumvent State Law.

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    BigDave wrote:
    Phssthpok wrote:
    IMHO there was no bluff. The security guard ( unarmed <rolleyes> ) was employed by the property owners and it was HE that informed me of the restriction. I'm all about holding the state's feet to the fire of the law, but I am also just as dedicated to supporting and honoring private property rights.

    Had the state PURCHASED the building formerly known as Tower mall, then I would have stood my ground. However, ownership of the building is indeed still held by a private entity.
    Hmm lets see here the State Employment Security Department is guarded by a private guard hired by the property owner!

    Is this in a building that houses other businesses as a mall ? Is the guard in the Employment Security Office?

    Any Employment Security I have seen is in a stand alone building and no guards and even if there was the Employment Security Department does not have the authority to circumvent State Law.

    All else fails go concealed, don't asked don't tell
    I know the Gateway Center Plaza is guarded by security who are employed directly to the property owners. All of the businesses on site are leased.

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    Most state offices are leased..... This does bring up an interesting point... Technically, the owners of the property are a private entity (not the state), but the sole purpose is for the state to do business, allow public access etc...

    I wonder who trumps who there...??? If the state is the sole tenant, and the owners are NOT on site.... can you be asked to leave? What if the owners ARE on site.. Do the private property allowances trump constitutional rights in state leased property?
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    massivedesign wrote:
    Most state offices are leased..... This does bring up an interesting point... Technically, the owners of the property are a private entity (not the state), but the sole purpose is for the state to do business, allow public access etc...

    I wonder who trumps who there...??? If the state is the sole tenant, and the owners are NOT on site.... can you be asked to leave? What if the owners ARE on site.. Do the private property allowances trump constitutional rights in state leased property?
    This is a problem that's been noted in Georgia - the state owns properties that it leases to private companies like restaurants and such. It also rents private property for things like school functions. They've had to work very hard to change the laws so it's clear what is and isn't state controlled...

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    Tony Santiago wrote:
    has anyone ever open carried in a job interview?
    I would be more nervous about this idea then the employer would be I think! I already have a hard enough time with open carry. I like the idea of open carry and do it on occasion but my biggest thing is during the conversation is the gun gonna come up? So I would have to say no. Not because I don't think its the right of the individual. I think a person should be able to bring a gun to church if they want. Or into the White House if they want. Its tax paid for land. But to a job interview would make me nervous as heck. Intersting question. The Founding Fathers would bevery proud of these types of questions. Rights are not negotiable. Cheers

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    Glock17 wrote:
    Tony Santiago wrote:
    has anyone ever open carried in a job interview?
    ...I think a person should be able to bring a gun to church if they want...
    I already do, and it's perfectly legal. In fact, I OC on Thursday nights, but CC on Sundays.
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    G22Paddy wrote:
    Glock17 wrote:
    Tony Santiago wrote:
    has anyone ever open carried in a job interview?
    ...I think a person should be able to bring a gun to church if they want...
    I already do, and it's perfectly legal. In fact, I OC on Thursday nights, but CC on Sundays.
    Hmmm? Is god not there on Thursday?
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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    killchain wrote:
    I had an interview once where the interviewer was open carrying.

    I also took an off-duty physical while concealing.
    Was carrying a firearm a part of your interviewer's job duties?
    It was for a private security company. The owner was the interviewer, but I knew ahead of time that the company didn't do armed security, so... guess she was just kinda doing her own thing, haha.

    Just for the record, I didn't get the position.
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