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    My brother just made a post on Facebook saying that his step mother and uncle had a firearm pulled on them at a bar in Federal Way last night. I'm trying to get details on the incident, and will fill more in when I find out.

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    Follow up - It was at "Lollies" or "Lolly's"? Not sure on the spelling.

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    Was it in the bar or just outside? If inside, the person wasn't supposed to have it in there anyway.

    Then again, if they're running around pulling a gun on people outside the realm of self defense, they probably have things going on that prohibit them from having a gun anyway.
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    G22Paddy wrote:
    Was it in the bar or just outside? If inside, the person wasn't supposed to have it in there anyway.

    Then again, if they're running around pulling a gun on people outside the realm of self defense, they probably have things going on that prohibit them from having a gun anyway.
    I'm not 100% sure. I'm communicating with him via email, so I'm not sure on the specifics, other than it was last night, at or in front of the Lollies bar in Federal Way.

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    Lolli's Broiler & Pub
    ‎32925 1st Avenue South
    Federal Way, WA 98003-6324

    Do they carry? If not, will they start?
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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    G22Paddy wrote:
    Was it in the bar or just outside? If inside, the person wasn't supposed to have it in there anyway.

    Then again, if they're running around pulling a gun on people outside the realm of self defense, they probably have things going on that prohibit them from having a gun anyway.
    I'm not 100% sure. I'm communicating with him via email, so I'm not sure on the specifics, other than it was last night, at or in front of the Lollies bar in Federal Way.
    Did they file a police report?
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    gogodawgs wrote:
    Aaron1124 wrote:
    G22Paddy wrote:
    Was it in the bar or just outside? If inside, the person wasn't supposed to have it in there anyway.

    Then again, if they're running around pulling a gun on people outside the realm of self defense, they probably have things going on that prohibit them from having a gun anyway.
    I'm not 100% sure. I'm communicating with him via email, so I'm not sure on the specifics, other than it was last night, at or in front of the Lollies bar in Federal Way.
    Did they file a police report?
    Trying to find out. I may not get a response from him tonight. I'll post more as soon as I get follow up info on it.

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    G22Paddy wrote:
    Lolli's Broiler & Pub
    ‎32925 1st Avenue South
    Federal Way, WA 98003-6324

    Do they carry? If not, will they start?
    Yep. That's it. It's right next door to his dad's Pizza restaurant. (I say *his* dad because we share the same mother, not father)

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    I used to live not far from Lolli's, and was there fairly often.

    At THAT time the "Over 21" signs only covered part of the premises, so I was careful to stay on the "restaurant" side of the line for all my visits. I don't know if the signs have been moved since then...
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    That's a lie! The laws don't allow guns in bars! If people broke the law, then, gosh...


    *head asplode*
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    "asplode"

    Now there's an interesting verb. Is that what happens when you eat too much pasghettis? :P

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    G22Paddy wrote:
    Then again, if they're running around pulling a gun on people outside the realm of self defense, they probably have things going on that prohibit them from having a gun anyway.
    They may be prohibited, but they are not prevented from carrying a gun.

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    killchain wrote:
    That's a lie! The laws don't allow guns in bars! If people broke the law, then, gosh...


    *head asplode*
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    RCW 9.41.300
    Weapons prohibited in certain places — Local laws and ordinances — Exceptions — Penalty.


    (1) It is unlawful for any person to enter the following places when he or she knowingly possesses or knowingly has under his or her control a weapon:
    ...
    (d) That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age; or...
    (5) The perimeter of the premises of any specific location covered by subsection (1) of this section shall be posted at reasonable intervals to alert the public as to the existence of any law restricting the possession of firearms on the premises.

    (9) Subsection (1)(d) of this section does not apply to the proprietor of the premises or his or her employees while engaged in their employment.

    (10) Any person violating subsection (1) of this section is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

    (11) "Weapon" as used in this section means any firearm, explosive as defined in RCW 70.74.010, or instrument or weapon listed in RCW 9.41.250.
    ________

    MANY restaurants with bars have only the "bar" portion of the premises marked as off limits to those under 21, Families with children and those carrying firearms are allowed by law in the portion of the premises outside the line created by the required signs.

    To give an easy example: When I eat at Applebee's, I do not pass the sign that says "No Minors" or "No Firearms" but the rest of the premises are absolutely legal for carry.



    http://liq.wa.gov/education/education_signage.aspx


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    ETA: I just noticed in that "no firearms" sign from the WSLCB they screwed up in quoting the applicable law. It should be 9.41.300(1)(d) ...

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    Tomas wrote:
    killchain wrote:
    That's a lie! The laws don't allow guns in bars! If people broke the law, then, gosh...


    *head asplode*
    _______

    RCW 9.41.300
    Weapons prohibited in certain places — Local laws and ordinances — Exceptions — Penalty.


    (1) It is unlawful for any person to enter the following places when he or she knowingly possesses or knowingly has under his or her control a weapon:
    ...
    (d) That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age; or...
    (5) The perimeter of the premises of any specific location covered by subsection (1) of this section shall be posted at reasonable intervals to alert the public as to the existence of any law restricting the possession of firearms on the premises.

    (9) Subsection (1)(d) of this section does not apply to the proprietor of the premises or his or her employees while engaged in their employment.

    (10) Any person violating subsection (1) of this section is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

    (11) "Weapon" as used in this section means any firearm, explosive as defined in RCW 70.74.010, or instrument or weapon listed in RCW 9.41.250.
    ________

    MANY restaurants with bars have only the "bar" portion of the premises marked as off limits to those under 21, Families with children and those carrying firearms are allowed by law in the portion of the premises outside the line created by the required signs.

    To give an easy example: When I eat at Applebee's, I do not pass the sign that says "No Minors" or "No Firearms" but the rest of the premises are absolutely legal for carry.



    http://liq.wa.gov/education/education_signage.aspx


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    ETA: I just noticed in that "no firearms" sign from the WSLCB they screwed up in quoting the applicable law. It should be 9.41.300(1)(d) ...

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    I was being sarcastic.
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    killchain wrote:
    Tomas wrote:
    killchain wrote:
    That's a lie! The laws don't allow guns in bars! If people broke the law, then, gosh...


    *head asplode*
    ...
    I was being sarcastic.
    There was no way to tell.

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    I got it......

    The gosh and head asplode was a pretty good clue. LOL.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    did you say your brothers dad owns that pizza restaurant? lol we should all go oc there!

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    Proof: Criminals do not care what the Law says about Bars and Firearms.

    Proof: Criminals do not care what the Law says about using a Firearm to committ a Felony.

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    aadvark wrote:
    Proof: Criminals do not care what the Law says about Bars and Firearms.

    Proof: Criminals do not care what the Law says about using a Firearm to committ a Felony.
    Whoa! Hold on....

    Cite???

    <sarcasm off>

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    Tomas wrote:
    killchain wrote:
    That's a lie! The laws don't allow guns in bars! If people broke the law, then, gosh...


    *head asplode*
    _______

    RCW 9.41.300
    Weapons prohibited in certain places — Local laws and ordinances — Exceptions — Penalty.


    (1) It is unlawful for any person to enter the following places when he or she knowingly possesses or knowingly has under his or her control a weapon:
    ...
    (d) That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age; or...
    (5) The perimeter of the premises of any specific location covered by subsection (1) of this section shall be posted at reasonable intervals to alert the public as to the existence of any law restricting the possession of firearms on the premises.

    (9) Subsection (1)(d) of this section does not apply to the proprietor of the premises or his or her employees while engaged in their employment.

    (10) Any person violating subsection (1) of this section is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

    (11) "Weapon" as used in this section means any firearm, explosive as defined in RCW 70.74.010, or instrument or weapon listed in RCW 9.41.250.
    ________

    MANY restaurants with bars have only the "bar" portion of the premises marked as off limits to those under 21, Families with children and those carrying firearms are allowed by law in the portion of the premises outside the line created by the required signs.

    To give an easy example: When I eat at Applebee's, I do not pass the sign that says "No Minors" or "No Firearms" but the rest of the premises are absolutely legal for carry.



    http://liq.wa.gov/education/education_signage.aspx


    ________

    ETA: I just noticed in that "no firearms" sign from the WSLCB they screwed up in quoting the applicable law. It should be 9.41.300(1)(d) ...

    .


    I think Applebees is the only place I have actually seen the no firearms sign. Every time I am in a restaurant with a bar I always check. I know I can't go in there but I check to see if they even have a sign. Most don't have one or if they do its not a visible one.

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    The Ram in Tacoma on Ruston also has the sign, but at the front door. I always ignore the sign when I am sitting in the restruant.
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    Cactus in Kirkland has one, visible on a wall behind the bar.

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    All of the bars beyond the security checkpoints at Seatac are dutifully posted. I guess they want to remind the Port Authority officers to disarm before indulging.
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    Stryker wrote:
    All of the bars beyond the security checkpoints at Seatac are dutifully posted. I guess they want to remind the Port Authority officers to disarm before indulging.
    LOL....now that there is funny
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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