Harrisonburg Parks and Recreation bans firearms on park property?

OK - I've talked to the City Manager and he confirms that they flyer is in error and he has talked to Parks to make sure the next printing does not have that wording. He confirmed that gun in the parks are OK and the police, he said, do know that.

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OK - I've talked to the City Manager and he confirms that they flyer is in error and he has talked to Parks to make sure the next printing does not have that wording. He confirmed that gun in the parks are OK and the police, he said, do know that.

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I'm just curious, did he give any indication that he had already been made aware of the issue?

TFred

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Bah, I was going to draft an email to the manager tonight when I got to work.

My only question is: Will they amend the online copy (see OP)?

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Nice catch Abno. And thank you also, PVC.

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Mr. Foerster,

I noticed in the Harrisonburg Parks and Recreation Summer 2010 Activity Guide on the second page there is the following statement:

"No alcoholic beverages, illegal
drugs, firearms or weapons of any
kind are allowed on park property".

From what I understand, the parts of this sentence prohibiting weapons on city park property will be properly removed from future Activities Guides, as it runs afoul of state law.

I would also like to ask if and when the online version of this guide will be amended to reflect this change.

For reference, the online copy of this guide maybe found here: http://www.harrisonburgva.gov/fileadmin/user_upload/parks/files/Summer_Activity_Guide/Harrisonburg_Parks___Rec_summer_2010_vers_7_Layout_1.pdf

The file name indicates that this guide has been through at least six revisions so far (vers_7), so it does not seem that a seventh revision to a version eight would be out of line, particularly to correct an error of this nature.

Being that this is the current version of this season's Activities Guide, this is the version people will be using if they do not have access to a paper copy.

I shall await your reply on this matter,
{AbNo}

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Bah, I did not take into account it was finals week, and was rather busy at work.

Well, now that the issue will be resolved in future editions, I would still like to resolve the problem in the current version that is still available online.

Also, FWIW, I did some digging, and it seems that the ban did not start until the 2009 editions started coming out. All the 2008 and earlier guides are ban-free. This is just something for thought that I may ask about in a follow-up email. (Example: Did they change/outsource writers?)

Anyway, proposed request to fix the online copy, to be sent to the Hburg P&R director....

Mr. Foerster,

I noticed in the Harrisonburg Parks and Recreation Summer 2010 Activity Guide on the second page there is the following statement:

"No alcoholic beverages, illegal
drugs, firearms or weapons of any
kind are allowed on park property".

From what I understand, the parts of this sentence prohibiting weapons on city park property will be properly removed from future Activities Guides, as it runs afoul of state preemption.

I would also like to ask if and when the online version of this guide will be amended to reflect this change.

For reference, the online copy of this guide maybe found here: http://www.harrisonburgva.gov/fileadmin/user_upload/parks/files/Summer_Activity_Guide/Harrisonburg_Parks___Rec_summer_2010_vers_7_Layout_1.pdf

The file name indicates that this guide has been through at least six revisions so far (vers_7), so it does not seem that a seventh revision to a version eight would be out of line, particularly to correct an error of this nature.

Bing that this is the current version of this season's Activities Guide, this is the version people will be using if they do not have access to a paper copy.

I shall await you reply on this matter,
{AbNo}

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Ok, so I pulled that out of my... back pocket in about five minutes. Comments? Suggestions? If it's good, I'll fire it off, if not, I'll fix it.

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Bah, I did not take into account it was finals week, and was rather busy at work.

Well, now that the issue will be resolved in future editions, I would still like to resolve the problem in the current version that is still available online.

Also, FWIW, I did some digging, and it seems that the ban did not start until the 2009 editions started coming out. All the 2008 and earlier guides are ban-free. This is just something for thought that I may ask about in a follow-up email. (Example: Did they change/outsource writers?)

Anyway, proposed request to fix the online copy, to be sent to the Hburg P&R director....

Mr. Foerster,

I noticed in the Harrisonburg Parks and Recreation Summer 2010 Activity Guide on the second page there is the following statement:

"No alcoholic beverages, illegal
drugs, firearms or weapons of any
kind are allowed on park property".

From what I understand, the parts of this sentence prohibiting weapons on city park property will be properly removed from future Activities Guides, as it runs afoul of state preemption.

I would also like to ask if and when the online version of this guide will be amended to reflect this change.

For reference, the online copy of this guide maybe found here: http://www.harrisonburgva.gov/fileadmin/user_upload/parks/files/Summer_Activity_Guide/Harrisonburg_Parks___Rec_summer_2010_vers_7_Layout_1.pdf

The file name indicates that this guide has been through at least six revisions so far (vers_7), so it does not seem that a seventh revision to a version eight would be out of line, particularly to correct an error of this nature.

Bing that this is the current version of this season's Activities Guide, this is the version people will be using if they do not have access to a paper copy.

I shall await you reply on this matter,
{AbNo}

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Ok, so I pulled that out of my... back pocket in about five minutes. Comments? Suggestions? If it's good, I'll fire it off, if not, I'll fix it.

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Mr. Foerster,

I noticed in the Harrisonburg Parks and Recreation Summer 2010 Activity Guide on the second page there is the following statement:

"No alcoholic beverages, illegal
drugs, firearms or weapons of any
kind are allowed on park property".

From what I understand, the parts of this sentence prohibiting weapons on city park property will be properly removed from future Activities Guides, as it runs afoul of state preemption.

I would like to ask if and when the online version of this guide will be amended to reflect this change.

For reference, the online copy of this guide maybe found here: http://www.harrisonburgva.gov/filea...g_Parks___Rec_summer_2010_vers_7_Layout_1.pdf

The file name indicates that this guide has been through at least six revisions so far (vers_7), so it does not seem that a seventh revision to a version eight would be out of line, particularly to correct an error of this nature.

Being that this is the current version of this season's Activities Guide, this is the version people will be using if they do not have access to a paper copy.

I appreciate your immediate attention to this matter.
Please advise me how you intend to proceed.

Sincerely,

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The pdf version of the 2010 Summer Activities Guide that I find on the City Website has been corrected and does not contain that language. Thanks for the inquiry. Lee

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Ah, pardon my mistake, Mr. Foerster. It would seem I have an outdated link to the older version of the guide, which is apparently still accessible, just not from the web site.

For reference, the older online copy of this guide maybe found here: http://www.harrisonburgva.gov/filea...g_Parks___Rec_summer_2010_vers_7_Layout_1.pdf

The above is the link I had been using to access the Activity Guide, I had bookmarked it from earlier in the year, about the time the paper copies were mailed out. This might be why I thought the online guide had not been corrected, as it is still available online, even if it is hidden.

Would it be possible to have the version seven removed, in case anyone else is still using this outdated copy of the online guide?

Thank you for your time,

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No

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Might I ask as to why this older guide will not be removed or corrected?

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The older guide has been corrected. When one accesses the Activity Guide from the website, the language that you are concerned about is not there. Lee

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