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    The past year I have not went out much. I used to go out to the club regularily, heck, I used to take my kids to the library on a regular basis and the park. I have suspected this for some time but realize that I am an "Idiot Magnet." When I go out of the house I have a tenancy to run into people thatare hell bent on invading my space, my comfort zone and engage me even when I make it clear (in a friedly way) that I do not want to be engaged.

    Last night I left my apartment to go out the club (it has been about 6 months since I last ventured out). I stopped at the gas station to get soem fuel for my truck. As I am walking into the gas station to pay a car that looks like it had rolled down a hill and has the back window completely busted out pulls up beside me. The driver says to me "excuse me...excuse me..do you have some change." I politely said no (I figure it better to at least let the person know that you acknowldge they exist than to ignore them).I said, "I am sorry, no."

    My stomach began to turn and I felt extremely uncomfortable because when I went into the gas station the men in the car just sat outside of it. I did not pay for the gas but just went out the back door of the gas station and to my truck and figured that I would go some where else for fuel. I walk to my truck and now the car with the men in it is parked behind my truck and the guys are sitting there obviously waiting for me to come out. They pull the car forward trying to get between a barrier and my truck to pull beside me again, nearly hitting my truck. I walk back over to and into the gas station. I figured I would stand there for a minute or two, wait the men out and then be on my way.

    While I was inside I paid the cashier 20 bucks for gas then walked back out the door...the men were now sitting behind my truck in their car, waiting. I walked back into the gas station and just stood there for a few minutes (by this time my heart was racing even more than it already was).

    Eventually they pulled away and I walked out to my truck and put the gas in the tank and went on my way.

    I do not mean to be rude towards men, promise. But I really want to understand why SOME men seem to not understand that when you pull up beside a woman in the middle of the night and continue engaging her when she obviously does not want to be engaged, why SOME men think that is appropriate behavior? I have been in a self-defense situation and absolutely do not want to ever get even close to being inanother ever again.

    Yes, I was armed last night (until I get to the club of course).
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    The past year I have not went out much. I used to go out to the club regularily, heck, I used to take my kids to the library on a regular basis and the park. I have suspected this for some time but realize that I am an "Idiot Magnet." When I go out of the house I have a tenancy to run into people thatare hell bent on invading my space, my comfort zone and engage me even when I make it clear (in a friedly way) that I do not want to be engaged.

    Last night I left my apartment to go out the club (it has been about 6 months since I last ventured out). I stopped at the gas station to get soem fuel for my truck. As I am walking into the gas station to pay a car that looks like it had rolled down a hill and has the back window completely busted out pulls up beside me. The driver says to me "excuse me...excuse me..do you have some change." I politely said no (I figure it better to at least let the person know that you acknowldge they exist than to ignore them).I said, "I am sorry, no."

    My stomach began to turn and I felt extremely uncomfortable because when I went into the gas station the men in the car just sat outside of it. I did not pay for the gas but just went out the back door of the gas station and to my truck and figured that I would go some where else for fuel. I walk to my truck and now the car with the men in it is parked behind my truck and the guys are sitting there obviously waiting for me to come out. They pull the car forward trying to get between a barrier and my truck to pull beside me again, nearly hitting my truck. I walk back over to and into the gas station. I figured I would stand there for a minute or two, wait the men out and then be on my way.

    While I was inside I paid the cashier 20 bucks for gas then walked back out the door...the men were now sitting behind my truck in their car, waiting. I walked back into the gas station and just stood there for a few minutes (by this time my heart was racing even more than it already was).

    Eventually they pulled away and I walked out to my truck and put the gas in the tank and went on my way.

    I do not mean to be rude towards men, promise. But I really want to understand why SOME men seem to not understand that when you pull up beside a woman in the middle of the night and continue engaging her when she obviously does not want to be engaged, why SOME men think that is appropriate behavior? I have been in a self-defense situation and absolutely do not want to ever get even close to being inanother ever again.

    Yes, I was armed last night (until I get to the club of course).
    I have seen some that attract idiots, scum, etc.... (almost always female)

    The question is why?

    Is it your demeanor? Is it the way you dress? Is it your car? There are many more questions of why?

    (none of these answers excuse men who have no sense of decency, civility and courtesy, but you can only change you not others)
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    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    But I really want to understand...why SOME men think...
    They're not thinking. They're simply losers.
    Hoplophobia is a social disease.

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    I have come to the realization that both genders are morons. The difference being that men are overt about their antics, and women tend to be more covert about them. With both genders though I think it's just a lack of firing neurons.

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    Well I am glad you were armed because there will always be those folks in the world that would love to make you there victim. And the evil they do knows no bounds. As far as I can tell you will always have these people in your life. It seems they live in abundance here on this planet. Thats why the Founders gave us the 2A. If you are an attractive female you will have this problem. I wish you luck and always stay vigilant in the face of idiots. Cheers

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    You just need a big body guard.

    I am a huge guy and I have alot of friends and cousins that get alot of attention when we hang out. When I open carry guys are suddenly afraid of talking to them.

    Great way to keep the chicks to my self

    So what club did you go to?

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    Glocked and Loaded wrote:

    So what club did you go to?



    I go to a couple of the clubs on Broadway in Seattle.

    I typically do not wear makeup or look feminine just to pretty much do away with men being interested in me. I think these men were needing money for fuel or something. They acted like they were under the influece of something...not alcohol.


    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    . They acted like they were under the influece of something...not alcohol.

    ....testosterone.....LOL....or maybe you cast a magnetic spell over men :P

    Raises a curiouspoint, if you were open carrying I don't beleive they would have been so bold I would have paid to see their expression for you to go in to gas station concealed and come out open carry.


    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    . They acted like they were under the influece of something...not alcohol.

    ....testosterone.....LOL....or maybe you cast a magnetic spell over men :P

    Raises a curiouspoint, if you were open carrying I don't beleive they would have been so bold I would have paid to see their expression for you to go in to gas station concealed and come out open carry.

    LOL, they would have crapped I am sure.

    I seriously present as unapproachable as possible. I think that there are a lot of gooballs running around on the streets these days...methheads.

    The only place I love going where there are a lot of men is at the range. Everyone is respectful and there to do a few basic things, shoot some lead and shoot the sh*t...that is the ideal interaction with a man IMO.


    I have been OC'ing occassionally lately and it has been nice. I am a week or two away from a new holster I bought for more OC'ing...beautiful holster. I am so excited!:celebrate
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    .* They acted like they were under the influece of something...not alcohol.

    I would have paid to see their expression for you to go in to gas station concealed and come out open carry.

    *
    And that very well could be considered intent to intimidate.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    . They acted like they were under the influece of something...not alcohol.

    I would have paid to see their expression for you to go in to gas station concealed and come out open carry.

    And that very well could be considered intent to intimidate.
    I thought about that still would love to see the expression on there faces.

    Or it could be justified force for she had to return to her car and they had already tried to intimidate and harrass her?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    .* They acted like they were under the influece of something...not alcohol.

    I would have paid to see their expression for you to go in to gas station concealed and come out open carry.

    *
    And that very well could be considered intent to intimidate.
    I thought about that still would love to see the expression on there faces.

    Or it could be justified force for she had to return to her car and they had already tried to intimidate and harrass her?
    MMmmm Possibly and I would hope an officer would see it that way but you just never know who might respond to a 911 call.

    Don't get me wrong as I would also love to see their faces. I have no tolerance for beggars or persons who try and intimidate females.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

    "though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for I know that you are by my side" Glock 23:40

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    We are on the same page then.

    I can still hear the "Oh s*%$s " in my imagination.

    I would hope an officer would see it that way too, I believe the few I know personally would.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    We are on the same page then.

    I can still hear the "Oh s*%$s " in my imagination.

    I would hope an officer would see it that way too, I believe the few I know personally would.
    Agreed. I do however know of a few that would look down on the person coming back out of the store OC'ing. But then again I know close to a hundred officers so I guess that makes good odds.

    BTW Sylvia, since almost all men are idiots at one point in their life I do not think it is only you who is an idiot magnet. My wife is too, how do you think she found me. :P
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

    "though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for I know that you are by my side" Glock 23:40

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    Sylvia I just came across an interview with Kathy Jackson on ProArms Broadcast on this very subject and it is titled the Day Nothing Happened. http://proarmspodcast.com/2010/03/21...hing-happened/


    • Being prepared is to prepare, this is our responsibility.
    • I am not your Mommy or Daddy and do not sugar coat it but I will tell you simply as how I see it, it is up to you on how you will or will not use it.
    • IANAL, all information I present is for your review, do your own homework.

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    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Sylvia Plath wrote:
    . They acted like they were under the influece of something...not alcohol.

    ....testosterone.....LOL....or maybe you cast a magnetic spell over men :P

    Raises a curiouspoint, if you were open carrying I don't beleive they would have been so bold I would have paid to see their expression for you to go in to gas station concealed and come out open carry.

    LOL, they would have crapped I am sure.

    I seriously present as unapproachable as possible. I think that there are a lot of gooballs running around on the streets these days...methheads.

    The only place I love going where there are a lot of men is at the range. Everyone is respectful and there to do a few basic things, shoot some lead and shoot the sh*t...that is the ideal interaction with a man IMO.


    I have been OC'ing occassionally lately and it has been nice. I am a week or two away from a new holster I bought for more OC'ing...beautiful holster. I am so excited!:celebrate
    Sylvia, there was a thread a while back about compensating. I found a poster for ya that I think goes here as well...
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    I have one of those! I love my AK-47.

    Definately not something an intruder expects when entering a house they think "just" has a woman in it.

    I was talking in a group last week about carrying and that I basically carry 24/7. One of the women there asked me why I feel like Ineed tocarry. I said thatI do not "feel" like I "need," that I carry because I like to carry and I want to have all options available to me just in case.

    Some call it paranoia, I call it preparedness
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Have you met Sylvia? Have you learned anything from her personality from her posts?Weak is not a word I'd use to describe her.

    Just messing around with ya amzbrady, it's a good poster and a perfect reason why I think females should carry, weak or not predators often percieve them as easy prey.

    Oh and I hope Sylvia would know me by now and not be offended either.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Have you met Sylvia? Have you learned anything from her personality from her posts?Weak is not a word I'd use to describe her.

    Just messing around with ya amzbrady, it's a good poster and a perfect reason why I think females should carry, weak or not predators often percieve them as easy prey.

    Oh and I hope Sylvia would know me by now and not be offended either.
    I have not met her. I would not describe her as weak minded either. I think everyone should carry, but esp female's. They are more likely to become a target than a man is. They get targeted just for being a woman, most men are targeted for what they own, or our mouths get us in trouble. Here is another poster I really like.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    I am with ya there brother.

    I had that conversation (while carrying )with the teller at the Bank and she agreed too. Imagine how Bank hold ups would drop if the tellers were armed.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    I have always felt that if a man was going to target a woman he would definately not choose me...apparently I am wrong about that LOL.

    I do not take offense to what you had said. I do not tolerate much BS from random people on the street, especially when I have my kids and partner with me.

    When I am alone that is a whole other story, I avoid confrontation to the best of my ability. The reason I do not do that when my family is with me is because I can not simply get out of a situation as easily when I have four kids and a spouse in tow. I am much more obligated to hang around and make sure the perp is on the receiving end of the interaction.

    I wonder if that is the same with most every one though. Do others here tend to be much less tolerant of BS when the kids and spouse are around?
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Reading your opening post, it looked to me like it had snatch and grab possibilities written all over it. You did the right thing by avoiding them. It may have been inconveniencing to you. but armed or not, you still want to avoid any dangerous situation if you can. I personally don't trust any strangers that volunteer themselves to me like those guys did to you. Those guys were interested in you for something if they were hovering like that at your car.

    I fear constantly for my wife and two daughters safety knowing the hazards women face while walking through parking lots. I've went over it several times about how they need to have eyes in the backs of their heads and how to defend themselves immediately and to the death right there in public before they are put into a car.

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    Sylvia

    I believe that men confront a woman as your described for one of two reasons:

    1) she is extremely HOT looking and they just want to "try and see" if she responds in a positive manner.

    or

    2) she gives off some sort of "I'm a victim" scent/persona and they believe her to be an easy target.

    I have heard that there have been studies done, that some women who have been raped, have been raped on multiple occasions because they "give off" a victim persona that certain men seem to be able to notice or pick up on.

    Not sure which one could be occurring here (if at all), but hope that this helps and it is really because you are smokin' hot!!

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    I have just generally been an idiot magnet. I have tried to figure out over the years why but have concluded that it just is what it is. I have never been the victim of a rape or abuse by a man but I know women that have and they seem to attract men like that. I seem to attract men who are under the influence of some thing. I have dealt with two attacks the past two years...one was drunk and the other was high. The first was pepper sprayed and thelatter had a really, reall bad day.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    I am glad you are getting something out of this (whatever that is).

    I think you crave attention whether it's negative or positive and that is what you are getting in this post "attention"

    Go talk to a councelor about this instead of airing it out here, besides; how does this relate to OC'ing, CC'ing, or our 2A rights ?

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