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Thread: Are guns REALLY illegal on the DC Mall? revisited!

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    Code:
        (b) Effective <<NOTE: 15 USC 1638 note.>> Date.--The amendments made 
    by subsection (a) shall take effect on March 12, 2009.
    SEC. 512. <<NOTE: 16 USC 1a-7b.>> PROTECTING AMERICANS FROM 
    VIOLENT CRIME.
    
    (a) Congressional Findings.--Congress finds the following:
    (1) The Second Amendment to the Constitution provides that 
    ``the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
    infringed''.
    (2) Section 2.4(a)(1) of title 36, Code of Federal 
    Regulations, provides that ``except as otherwise provided in 
    this section and parts 7 (special regulations) and 13 (Alaska 
    regulations), the following are prohibited: (i) Possessing a 
    weapon, trap or net (ii) Carrying a weapon, trap or net (iii) 
    Using a weapon, trap or net''.
    
    [[Page 123 STAT. 1765]]
    
    (3) Section 27.42 of title 50, Code of Federal Regulations, 
    provides that, except in special circumstances, citizens of the 
    United States may not ``possess, use, or transport firearms on 
    national wildlife refuges'' of the United States Fish and 
    Wildlife Service.
    (4) The regulations described in paragraphs (2) and (3) 
    prevent individuals complying with Federal and State laws from 
    exercising the second amendment rights of the individuals while 
    at units of--
    (A) the National Park System; and
    (B) the National Wildlife Refuge System.
    (5) The existence of different laws relating to the 
    transportation and possession of firearms at different units of 
    the National Park System and the National Wildlife Refuge System 
    entrapped law-abiding gun owners while at units of the National 
    Park System and the National Wildlife Refuge System.
    (6) Although the Bush administration issued new regulations 
    relating to the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens 
    in units of the National Park System and National Wildlife 
    Refuge System that went into effect on January 9, 2009--
    (A) on March 19, 2009, the United States District 
    Court for the District of Columbia granted a preliminary 
    injunction with respect to the implementation and 
    enforcement of the new regulations; and
    (B) the new regulations--
    (i) are under review by the administration; 
    and
    (ii) may be altered.
    (7) Congress needs to weigh in on the new regulations to 
    ensure that unelected bureaucrats and judges cannot again 
    override the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens on 
    83,600,000 acres of National Park System land and 90,790,000 
    acres of land under the jurisdiction of the United States Fish 
    and Wildlife Service.
    (8) The Federal laws should make it clear that the second 
    amendment rights of an individual at a unit of the National Park 
    System or the National Wildlife Refuge System should not be 
    infringed.
    
    (b) Protecting the Right of Individuals To Bear arms in Units of the 
    National Park System and the National Wildlife Refuge System.--The 
    Secretary of the Interior shall not promulgate or enforce any regulation 
    that prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm including an 
    assembled or functional firearm in any unit of the National Park System 
    or the National Wildlife Refuge System if--
    (1) the individual is not otherwise prohibited by law from 
    possessing the firearm; and
    (2) the possession of the firearm is in compliance with the 
    law of the State in which the unit of the National Park System 
    or the National Wildlife Refuge System is located.
    
    
    
    
    there are 3 pages in the old thread, read them to get up to speed.
    read this cite carefully,,  dreamer has good ideas,,  deanf has good rebuttles,,
    im on the fence,,  this is interesting stuff!
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    maybe mike is right,, DC gun laws apply to the mall. Thread closed.

    and this,,

    Take a look at the Coburn Amendment - it DOES NOT DISPLACE state, District, or other laws ban gun carry - it merely preempts the Secretary of the Interior from enforcing 2 DOIregulations!

    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_public_laws&docid=fubl024.111:

    THREAD CLOSED.
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    maybe an obtuse reading of the new law will reveal that its not really legal to carry a gun in fed parks after all!!
    nothing has really changed!!
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    well,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by 1245A Defender View Post
    maybe an obtuse reading of the new law will reveal that its not really legal to carry a gun in fed parks after all!!
    nothing has really changed!!

    this one too!! how odd.
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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