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    I heard there where going to pass a law to allow OC/CC in National Parks anyone hear if that has gone through are not?

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    Yes, it went into effect months ago. Each individual park now reflects the laws of the state where the park is located. Yellowstone, for example, follows the laws of Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho, depending on where in the park you are. The visitors centers of each park, being federal buildings, are still off limits, but that is the gist of the end result.

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    so all of utahs parks are open to open carry? just so I understand.

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    Yep, just steer clear of the buildings.

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    colormered wrote:
    Yep, just steer clear of the buildings.
    The building where they CLAIM carry firearms are illegal SHOULD all have a sign on each entrance.

    Sure wish they would admit that "self defense" is included in the "Other lawful purpose" of the law they are using to ban the carry into buildings where federal employees regularly perform their duties!
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    JoeSparky wrote:
    Sure wish they would admit that "self defense" is included in the "Other lawful purpose" of the law they are using to ban the carry into buildings where federal employees regularly perform their duties!
    And there's also debate about the buildings where federal employees regularly perform their official doodies.

    A poster on UCC who visited Zion National Park recently says that the visitor centers, etc., are clearly posted but that there are no signs on the bathrooms. He asked a park ranger and was told that carry was permitted in the bathrooms.

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    Federal employees are speeeshaaaallllll.

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    I believe I found the info, this is from handgunlaw.us

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf

    National Parks and National Wildlife Refuges (NWR) Carry
    National Park Carry will go into effect February 22, 2010. That means if you have a
    permit/license that is legal in the state the National Park is located in you can carry in that
    National Park. Until that time carry in National Parks is illegal.
    Title 36 Chpt. 1 Part 2 2.4 Weapons traps and nets.
    (h) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Chapter, a person may possess,
    carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national park area
    in accordance with the laws of the state in which the national park area, or that portion there of,
    is located, except as otherwise prohibited by applicable federal law.
    Chapter 50 Chapter 1 Part 27 27.42 Firearms.
    www.handgunlaw.us 2
    (e) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Chapter, persons may possess,
    carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national wildlife
    refuge in accordance with the laws of the state in which the wildlife refuge, or that
    portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by applicable federal law.
    National Forests
    Some states have laws concerning carrying in National Forest. You must know the law.
    In most states if it is legal for you to carry a firearm concealed in the state the National Forest is
    in you can carry your firearm concealed in a National Forest in that state. If it is legal to carry a
    firearm openly on your hip in the state the National Forest is in you can legally carry it that way
    in the National Forest in that state. Some states have have laws against carrying in National
    Forests in their state. Look at each states page to see if it is legal to carry in National Forests in
    that state.
    Do be advised that any Ranger Station or Visitors Center in any National Forest is considered
    a Federal Building. It is illegal to carry any firearm into such a building either concealed or
    openly even with a CCW from the state the National Forest Ranger Station or Visitors Center is
    in.

    And this appears to be actual Federal code

    http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....0.1.1.2.0.1.4

    2.4 Weapons, traps and nets.
    (h) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Chapter, a person may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national park area in accordance with the laws of the state in which the national park area, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by applicable Federal law.

    And apparently you have to disarm to walk into the bathrooms or the ranger stations, because they are government owned buildings. "Here hunny hold this...I have to pee" Or "here hunny hold this, take a seat I might be in there a few minutes" LoL
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