INTER-AMERICAN CONVENTION AGAINST FIREARMS

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I don'tknow a lot about this but have seen on the news recently the Obama is pushing this hard in the Senate right now. How damaging would this be to our 2[suP]nd?[/suP]

INTER-AMERICAN CONVENTION AGAINST THE ILLICIT MANUFACTURING OF AND TRAFFICKING IN FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, EXPLOSIVES, AND OTHER RELATED MATERIALS

http://www.oas.org/juridico/english/treaties/a-63.html

Along with:

"Attorney General Holder revealed his support for a national gun owner registration scheme and authorizing the government to ban firearm possession for any person by merely adding that person's name to the terror watch list.

Drawing reasonable conclusions from what Holder publicly said, we now know:


• Holder wants a national, permanent gun registration system administered by law enforcement. A registration of honest citizens that have cleared the federal background check for gun purchases with those records permanently retained by and shared among law enforcement.
• Holder wants new federal authority to prohibit any person on the federal watch list (reported to be 400,000 names) from buying guns and supports confiscating guns from those on the list who possess them."

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Did you happen to notice that the last nation to attach itself to ths abominaton was Haiti, back in 2007?

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They're trying to play the smoke and mirrors "watch the other hand" game and back door gun control. Of course if we don't do some heavy lane changing come November,,,,

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KansasMustang wrote:

They're trying to play the smoke and mirrors "watch the other hand" game and back door gun control. Of course if we don't do some heavy lane changing come November,,,,

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Also concerned that this very conveniently timed Puerto Rico statehood BS is to gain more progressive votes and to help continue their control of both houses?

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Metaphors awry, jawbone, you're killing my aśś!

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Bookman wrote:

Did you happen to notice that the last nation to attach itself to ths abominaton was Haiti, back in 2007?

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Actually, that is ratification date. Domincan Republic in 2009. The U.S. signed in 1997. Let's see who was the prez in 97?.....Oh yeah, it was Silly Willy.





COUNTRY
SIGNATURE
RATIFICATION/ACCESSION
DEPOSIT
INFORMATION*

Antigua & Barbuda
11/14/97
03/12/03
03/27/03 RA
-

Argentina
11/14/97
08/13/01
10/09/01 RA
Yes

Bahamas
04/15/98
06/05/98
07/30/98 RA
-

Barbados
04/06/01
06/04/04
06/07/04 RA
-

Belize
11/14/97
11/17/97
01/12/98 RA
-

Bolivia
11/14/97
02/12/99
04/29/99 RA
-

Brazil
11/14/97
08/26/99
09/28/99 RA
-

Canada
11/14/97
-
-
-

Chile
11/14/97
09/15/03
10/23/03 RA
-

Colombia
11/14/97
01/22/03
02/05/03 RA
-

Costa Rica
11/14/97
11/22/00
04/26/01 RA
-

Dominica
-
09/14/04
10/20/04 AD
-

Dominican Republic
11/14/97
02/26/09
04/24/09 RA
-

Ecuador
11/14/97
06/08/99
06/23/99 RA
Yes

El Salvador
11/14/97
01/08/99
03/18/99 RA
-

Grenada
11/14/97
11/29/01
01/16/02 RA
-

Guatemala
11/14/97
09/09/02
02/05/03 RA
-

Guyana
11/14/97
04/07/08
06/09/08 RA
-

Haiti
11/14/97
02/07/07
04/20/07 RA
-

Honduras
11/14/97
10/13/04
11/23/04 RA
-

Jamaica
11/14/97
-
-
-

Mexico
11/14/97
05/19/98
06/01/98 RA
-

Nicaragua
11/14/97
08/24/99
11/09/99 RA
-

Panama
11/14/97
06/17/99
09/28/99 RA
Yes

Paraguay
11/14/97
09/19/00
04/04/01 RA
-

Peru
11/14/97
06/04/99
06/08/99 RA
-

St. Kitts & Nevis
11/14/97
05/10/04
05/25/04 RA
-

St. Lucia
06/03/98
01/23/03
04/30/03 RA
-

St. Vincent & Grenadines
11/14/97
-
-
-

Suriname
11/14/97
03/14/08
05/05/08 RA
-

Trinidad & Tobago
05/12/98
01/23/04
02/13/04 RA
-

United States
11/14/97
-
-
-

Uruguay
11/14/97
05/24/01
07/20/01 RA
Yes

Venezuela
11/14/97
04/02/02
05/14/02 RA
-

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The assault continues with Little - No press coverage.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

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jbone wrote:

The assault continues with Little - No press coverage.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

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Article from October 14, 2009?

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The Donkey wrote:

jbone wrote:

The assault continues with Little - No press coverage.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

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Article from October 14, 2009?

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Now I'm the Donkey.

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I've read this treaty and it is utter foolishness. One provision requires States to keep records of illegally produced firearms so they can track them.

Just how does that work? Are they going to send ATF agents to illegal manufacturers and have them record the non-existent serial numbers on these illegally-produced arms?

And I wonder if this treaty will be used in instances like in the 1980's when the CIA contracted Ivers Johnson in Mena AR to manufacture full-auto M-16 receivers and sears without Serial Numbers or Manufacturer info stamps, for shipment to the Contras in exchange for cocaine? Does anyone REALLY think that the thousands of full-auto untraceable M-16s shipped to Nicaragua by the CIA and DEA in the mid '80's would be regulated under this treaty? Does anyone thing that the UN would DARE to bring up the DCI or the Miami DEA director on international arms smuggling charges?

Are People like Congressman Charles Wilson going to get arrested under this treaty, like when he illegally purchased untraceable firearms from Israel to ship to the Taliban in Afganistan to fight the Russians in the 1980s?

Give me a break...

The vast majority of "illegal arms" are actually manufactured, shipped, and sold by legitimate manufacturers and GOVERNMENTS to other governments or "freedom fighter" groups.

Somehow, I don't think the US government, or Israel, or even Russia or China is going to get called out and prosecuted by such a treaty.

Foolishness, I say...

I call SHENANIGANS on the UN...