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    Sorry, double click , , I think.
    When a criminal invades your home and has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.

    My Definition of Gun Control: The idea that dozens of people found dead in the Broadway Café, Tasmania, and many also seriously wounded, all while waiting for police, who were called to show up and protect them, is somehow morally superior to having several armed and therefore alive civilian's explaining to police how the attacker got that fatal bullet wound.

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    Why Not?

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    TheMrMitch wrote:
    Why Not?
    Yep, thats what I thought ?
    When a criminal invades your home and has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.

    My Definition of Gun Control: The idea that dozens of people found dead in the Broadway Café, Tasmania, and many also seriously wounded, all while waiting for police, who were called to show up and protect them, is somehow morally superior to having several armed and therefore alive civilian's explaining to police how the attacker got that fatal bullet wound.

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    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.

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    Pretty funny though.

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    Are folks with fire extinguishers also paranoid?

    A robber fears a call to 911 more than he fears a gun??? I don't think so.

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    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
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    Opinion wrote:
    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?
    Ok, so if you call 911 and there is a robber in your house, how do you suppose that robber is going to know you called 911?! And by you yelling out "I just called 911" to a robber atomatically tells them that they have a few minutes to get and or do what they want...now, same situation, robber busts in and finds you with your family huttled behind you, your wife on the phone with 911 and you with pistol pointed at the door, pretty sure that guys not gunna stay and find out what happens. Back to your scenerio...ya gotta figure the police can't be there within 5 seconds of your call, so what happens when it takes the first responders 10-15 minutes to get to your house?! What if said robber has a gun and finds you and decides to use it? You will be dead and robber will be gone before the police arrive. Ignorance and hoping things won't happen is not a plan or strategy. You are the only one responsible for your safety and that of your family. May I ask, do you wear your seatbelt when you get in the car? If you do then, according to your theory, you are paranoid. Do you have a smoke detector in your home? Life jackets in your boat?! For that matter, do you have a spare tire and tools or jumper cables in your vehicle, or even carry a cell phone at all times?It's being prepared, not paranoid.

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    TTcrunchberry wrote:
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    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?
    Ok, so if you call 911 and there is a robber in your house, how do you suppose that robber is going to know you called 911?! And by you yelling out "I just called 911" to a robber atomatically tells them that they have a few minutes to get and or do what they want...now, same situation, robber busts in and finds you with your family huttled behind you, your wife on the phone with 911 and you with pistol pointed at the door, pretty sure that guys not gunna stay and find out what happens. Back to your scenerio...ya gotta figure the police can't be there within 5 seconds of your call, so what happens when it takes the first responders 10-15 minutes to get to your house?! What if said robber has a gun and finds you and decides to use it? You will be dead and robber will be gone before the police arrive. Ignorance and hoping things won't happen is not a plan or strategy. You are the only one responsible for your safety and that of your family. May I ask, do you wear your seatbelt when you get in the car? If you do then, according to your theory, you are paranoid. Do you have a smoke detector in your home? Life jackets in your boat?! For that matter, do you have a spare tire and tools or jumper cables in your vehicle, or even carry a cell phone at all times?It's being prepared, not paranoid.
    Ummm... Can TTcrunchberry get and "oh, heck yeah" on this one?... I think so

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    Plankton wrote:
    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
    Thank you, Mr. Helmke.
    Yup, it does sound like much of the lame comments Helmke makes in his articles. Probably a cut and paste.

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    TTcrunchberry wrote:
    Opinion wrote:
    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?
    Ok, so if you call 911 and there is a robber in your house, how do you suppose that robber is going to know you called 911?! And by you yelling out "I just called 911" to a robber atomatically tells them that they have a few minutes to get and or do what they want...now, same situation, robber busts in and finds you with your family huttled behind you, your wife on the phone with 911 and you with pistol pointed at the door, pretty sure that guys not gunna stay and find out what happens. Back to your scenerio...ya gotta figure the police can't be there within 5 seconds of your call, so what happens when it takes the first responders 10-15 minutes to get to your house?! What if said robber has a gun and finds you and decides to use it? You will be dead and robber will be gone before the police arrive. Ignorance and hoping things won't happen is not a plan or strategy. You are the only one responsible for your safety and that of your family. May I ask, do you wear your seatbelt when you get in the car? If you do then, according to your theory, you are paranoid. Do you have a smoke detector in your home? Life jackets in your boat?! For that matter, do you have a spare tire and tools or jumper cables in your vehicle, or even carry a cell phone at all times?It's being prepared, not paranoid.
    Dang girl! I do believe you are more than ready to handle anyone that inquires as to "Why do you carry."

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    I laugh at the Brinks Home Security commercials ... and when the operator says, "I'm sending help," my family says, "No, send the ambulance because I am armed and ready to defend myself!"

    IMHO, those commercials are great demonstrations on why LAC should carry, even in the home!
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    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
    Hopefully, this is a put on. If not, it sounds as though someone simply expects to rationalize the fact that he is too lazy,stupid, or fearful to face reality and acquire the means and skills to defend himself and his family.

    I have both firearms and first aid kits. I keep them handy, and I maintain my skill with each.

    Do I expect to have to use them in the near future? No.

    Have I used them? Yes, and I've used the guns more than the first aid kit. (For this discussion I ignore the box of bandaids in the bathroom -- that's just normal maintenance for errors made while stringing barb wire, etc.)

    As for the skill level of a burglar with a gun, I have yet to be convinced that adisorganized sociopath has the self-discipline required to put in the thankless hours of practice required to either acquire or maintaina high level of skill with a firearm or to learn and practice the techniques of gunfighting. If he comes into my house, that's his mistake, and his propects of survival are inversely proportional to his aggressiveness.

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    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
    Thanks for the laugh.

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    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.

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    JKelly wrote:
    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
    Hopefully, this is a put on. If not, it sounds as though someone simply expects to rationalize the fact that he is too lazy,stupid, or fearful to face reality and acquire the means and skills to defend himself and his family.

    I have both firearms and first aid kits. I keep them handy, and I maintain my skill with each.

    Do I expect to have to use them in the near future? No.

    Have I used them? Yes, and I've used the guns more than the first aid kit. (For this discussion I ignore the box of bandaids in the bathroom -- that's just normal maintenance for errors made while stringing barb wire, etc.)

    As for the skill level of a burglar with a gun, I have yet to be convinced that adisorganized sociopath has the self-discipline required to put in the thankless hours of practice required to either acquire or maintaina high level of skill with a firearm or to learn and practice the techniques of gunfighting. If he comes into my house, that's his mistake, and his propects of survival are inversely proportional to his aggressiveness.
    Yep, he took the decision to take a risk in hopes of gaining a reward. If his reward is not exactly what he had expect or hoped to receive... oh well. The human race is not in danger of going extinct any time soon so one less member is not about to upset the balance.

    Nice post.

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    Its just too damn hot in Texas to have to conceal a firearm. Right now its 104 degrees where I live. Who can comfortably conceal a firearm when you are sweating your ass off? Ican't. And then people think something is wrong with you andask you why you are wearing so many clothes. My opinon though it may not mean much ,It would just be easier and more comfortable to open carry.

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    Here in Northern Nevada we are having the usual start of summer blitz -- high temperatures combined with higher than normal humidity until the ground dries out. I was running around all day, carrying a full-sized 1911 concealed.

    I use a Sparks VMII under a shirt. The kydex clips allow the shirt to be tucked in. I was in and out of stores, car dealerships, and other places all day long, starting at about 8:00 this morning. I am still armed as I type this at about 7:30 PM and feel no discomfort, although I did tuck my shirt in normally shortly after I finished my day and returned home.



    Stainless steel is SO nice.

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    I agree. Thank God for stainless steel. Anything other, chances are will probably rust. And right now, since my 1911 is parkerized itis starting to show some minor implications of good ole' fashioned surface rust in some places. Well any way off to the old cleaning table yes sir' indeed.:celebrate

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    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
    you should hang yourself

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    Gotta love that intelligent discourse. Good job, eric. :quirky
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    Gotta love that intelligent discourse. Good job, eric. :quirky
    You have to admit that "Opinion" is a classic waste of perfectly good oxygen and fertilizer.

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    erichonda30 wrote:
    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
    you should hang yourself
    I dont know who you are and frankly I dont care, but coming here making a life threating/terroristic statement such as you did and telling someone they should hang themselves forusing the constitutional right of freedom of speech, isin un-human andis against the law. Just because someone has different views about the carry and possesion of firearms than you do, does absoulutly not give you the justification of telling them to kill themselves. If I knew where and who you are I promise I would immediately file criminal charges against you and ensure that you were placed in jail. There are to many people online now that take these comments far to seriously and do in fact take ther own lives. This is highlyun-called for.

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    Delta116 wrote:
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    Opinion wrote:
    I personally think anyone who carries a guns is also carrying an extremely high sense of paranoia. It's common sense, they're afraid? It's also counter productive if you ask me, it's enabling all ages of children, teens and adolescent minors to rationalize the use or carry of their own guns or weapons in general.

    Because, as we all know...everyone with a holstered gun has had their house raided, life threatened, car stolen, loved ones harmed, fought in some sort of war (if they've served time it's okay because they're ready for terrorists!), child abducted, etc. Let's get real, 90% of all people with guns don't even need 'em.

    Someone without a gun is no more susceptible to the ever changing dynamics of reality than someone equipped. If you're robbed, you call 9-11 the robber bolts. That same robber breaks into your house realizing you're threatening his life with a 9mm he'll show you the same gratitude in return and guess who'll be actively and readily equipped for the encounter as opposed to someone in the leisure of their own home?

    The entire point of being a criminal is to have the upper hand in every situation imaginable and common sense serves if his or her life is threatened no matter the scenario, occasion or hypothetical model someone is going to die.
    you should hang yourself
    I dont know who you are and frankly I dont care, but coming here making a life threating/terroristic statement such as you did and telling someone they should hang themselves forusing the constitutional right of freedom of speech, isin un-human andis against the law. Just because someone has different views about the carry and possesion of firearms than you do, does absoulutly not give you the justification of telling them to kill themselves. If I knew where and who you are I promise I would immediately file criminal charges against you and ensure that you were placed in jail. There are to many people online now that take these comments far to seriously and do in fact take ther own lives. This is highlyun-called for.
    usingmy constitutional right of freedom of speech

    didnt make a threat just a sugestion if he doesnt like guns

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    usingmy constitutional right of freedom of speech
    Welcome to private property.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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