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LT. SOUP wrote:
While I have never been stopped when I was just walking down the street, I have a lead foot so I have visited with more than one officer in an official capacity
Most if not all, and when I watch "cops" on tv, it looks as though most officers are trained to ask proper questions.
"do you have you ID on you today sir?"
At which point most citizens hand it to them or say no.
Seems to me if you said yes, they would next say "may I see it please?" to which most folks will hand it over.
I suppose one could very well respond NO to that question.
If I opted for that, I would quickly add, "I have done nothing illegal and I will not be answering any more questions I am not required by law to answer."
If you don't shut up at that point, your going to build PC and frankly as odd an occurrence as I would guess that is, it is going to be a 19.5 minute long delay in your detainment.
Sometimes folks forget cops have rights too and they can ask you any question they like, you do not have to answer it, but they can ask em all day long.
I think what they were clearly defining is that the officer may ask to see your id, your not showing it is not criminal, if the cop demands it stating you are required to do so, he crossed a line he is not allowed to cross.
I have better ways to waste my time than making police officers lives a pain, if one ever tries to abuse his power with me, I will resist. Other than that, my usual interactions which are self provoked will remain as friendly and compliant as possible because ain't a one of them ever been pushing on the pedal on the right, that is always my fault.
LT. SOUP wrote:
Exactly,you are right. there are many varibles. yet show me a LEO that doesnt come off as a request. rather the later. demand. the verbage indicates the citizen has a choice to give up his ID.
While I have never been stopped when I was just walking down the street, I have a lead foot so I have visited with more than one officer in an official capacity
Most if not all, and when I watch "cops" on tv, it looks as though most officers are trained to ask proper questions.
"do you have you ID on you today sir?"
At which point most citizens hand it to them or say no.
Seems to me if you said yes, they would next say "may I see it please?" to which most folks will hand it over.
I suppose one could very well respond NO to that question.
If I opted for that, I would quickly add, "I have done nothing illegal and I will not be answering any more questions I am not required by law to answer."
If you don't shut up at that point, your going to build PC and frankly as odd an occurrence as I would guess that is, it is going to be a 19.5 minute long delay in your detainment.
Sometimes folks forget cops have rights too and they can ask you any question they like, you do not have to answer it, but they can ask em all day long.
I think what they were clearly defining is that the officer may ask to see your id, your not showing it is not criminal, if the cop demands it stating you are required to do so, he crossed a line he is not allowed to cross.
I have better ways to waste my time than making police officers lives a pain, if one ever tries to abuse his power with me, I will resist. Other than that, my usual interactions which are self provoked will remain as friendly and compliant as possible because ain't a one of them ever been pushing on the pedal on the right, that is always my fault.