lancers
Regular Member
You make my point... they must have RAS!!! I have been stopped dozens of times, never shown ID, refuse to answer questions, and have never been threatened with arrest. Maybe because I speak civilly, like a mature adult, and give the officers the same respect I desire. I refuse compliance without being an a-hole. Confident assertion of rights without bluster will likely never get you arrested. The bonehead in Philly recently got severely mistreated, but he had a really crappy attitude that you could hear in his voice.
If I do happen to get arrested someday despite my professional, mature demeanor, at least I will keep my mouth shut when I get to jail... If they actually had RAS (I look like a bank robber), I will chalk it up to bad luck. If they don't actually have RAS, I will sue them into the stone age, if possible. But what I will NOT do is make it worse for myself by running off at the mouth once they arrest me...
If I had a pending court case, I certainly would not be posting on public boards :S
I just hope you learned through it Then it might have some value after all in case you get into any REAL trouble!
Well you can make this about me all you want- it doesn't matter. You can think about suing the PD all you want- it doesn't matter. Everyone thinks they will just sue the police if they make one mistake, but it's really difficult. All that officer needs is arguable reasonable suspicion to avoid the lawsuit. Given the way the MO courts have ruled on the issue, the police will have their arguable reasonable suspicion. Even if you are able to get past that, the police department and the city have immunity unless you meet a lot of different factors including showing a consistent and blatant, similar violations.
Maybe how you get treated has everything to do with the different location you live.