crisisweasel
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Hi folks, just looking for some clarification, to correct a possible error in Wikipedia.
ARS 13-3108:
www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/03108.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
This states:
"C. This section does not prohibit a political subdivision of this state from enacting and enforcing any ordinance or rule pursuant to state law, to implement or enforce state law or relating to any of the following:
...
5. Limiting firearms possession in parks or preserves of one square mile or less in area to persons who possess a concealed weapons permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112. The political subdivision shall post reasonable notice at each park or preserve. The notice shall state the following: "Carrying a firearm in this park is limited to persons who possess a permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112." In parks or preserves that are more than one square mile in area, a political subdivision may designate developed or improved areas in which the political subdivision may limit firearms possession to persons who possess a concealed weapons permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112."
However...
One of AzCDL's victories this year was HB 2543 which amends this:
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2543p.pdf
This PDF file has the entire section about parks of different sizes (as above) crossed out, as if this was removed.
I am looking for confirmation that in fact you can now carry openly in small parks, large parks -- any park, and that HB 2543 does in fact eliminate this ridiculous exception and extend pre-emption to small parks.
I understand that HB 2543 doesn't go into effect until late July.
Wikipedia's information on Arizona gun laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#Arizona
This says:
State Preemption of local restrictions? Partial
Political subdivisions may regulate the carrying of weapons by juveniles or by their own employees or contractors when such employees or contractors are acting within the course and scope of their employment or contract. They may also prohibit the carrying of firearms by non-permit holders in public establishments and events and in parks of less than one square mile in area. Any such place where a political subdivision has prohibited carry by non-permit holders must be clearly posted.
Does this need to be updated / fixed?
And beyond this, what parks in Arizona (except for federal "facilities" like National Park offices/visitors centers) can still either prohibit firearms, or otherwise restrict carry to CCW permission slip holders?
Because if I am reading this properly, save the federal building exception, the answer is none. Is this correct?
Hi folks, just looking for some clarification, to correct a possible error in Wikipedia.
ARS 13-3108:
www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/03108.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
This states:
"C. This section does not prohibit a political subdivision of this state from enacting and enforcing any ordinance or rule pursuant to state law, to implement or enforce state law or relating to any of the following:
...
5. Limiting firearms possession in parks or preserves of one square mile or less in area to persons who possess a concealed weapons permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112. The political subdivision shall post reasonable notice at each park or preserve. The notice shall state the following: "Carrying a firearm in this park is limited to persons who possess a permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112." In parks or preserves that are more than one square mile in area, a political subdivision may designate developed or improved areas in which the political subdivision may limit firearms possession to persons who possess a concealed weapons permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112."
However...
One of AzCDL's victories this year was HB 2543 which amends this:
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2543p.pdf
This PDF file has the entire section about parks of different sizes (as above) crossed out, as if this was removed.
I am looking for confirmation that in fact you can now carry openly in small parks, large parks -- any park, and that HB 2543 does in fact eliminate this ridiculous exception and extend pre-emption to small parks.
I understand that HB 2543 doesn't go into effect until late July.
Wikipedia's information on Arizona gun laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#Arizona
This says:
State Preemption of local restrictions? Partial
Political subdivisions may regulate the carrying of weapons by juveniles or by their own employees or contractors when such employees or contractors are acting within the course and scope of their employment or contract. They may also prohibit the carrying of firearms by non-permit holders in public establishments and events and in parks of less than one square mile in area. Any such place where a political subdivision has prohibited carry by non-permit holders must be clearly posted.
Does this need to be updated / fixed?
And beyond this, what parks in Arizona (except for federal "facilities" like National Park offices/visitors centers) can still either prohibit firearms, or otherwise restrict carry to CCW permission slip holders?
Because if I am reading this properly, save the federal building exception, the answer is none. Is this correct?