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    Some may remember this from February

    Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for Armageddon

    A summary, the guy had several firearms in his home and his wife "tipped off" cops because she was losing interest in her husband.

    The cops came and arrested him and charged him with everything under the sun

    Last week a judge threw out most of his charges and his lawyers were confident the remaining misdemeanors would be thrown out eventually.

    Todays update is since the gov's prosecutors couldnt make their bunk charges stick they have decided to hold the guy for four years as a "ward of the court" and subjecting him to psychiatric treatment.

    Funny the guy was allegedly concerned about an overbearing government and this happens. The gov really proved him wrong there.

    So they couldnt make any of the charges stick and they couldnt toss him jailso they send him to "re-education" for four years.

    http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local...s-time-in-jail


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    ChuckUFarley wrote:
    Some may remember this from February

    Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for Armageddon

    A summary, the guy had several firearms in his home and his wife "tipped off" cops because she was losing interest in her husband.

    The cops came and arrested him and charged him with everything under the sun

    Last week a judge threw out most of his charges and his lawyers were confident the remaining misdemeanors would be thrown out eventually.

    Todays update is since the gov's prosecutors couldnt make their bunk charges stick they have decided to hold the guy for four years as a "ward of the court" and subjecting him to psychiatric treatment.

    Funny the guy was allegedly concerned about an overbearing government and this happens. The gov really proved him wrong there.

    So they couldnt make any of the charges stick and they couldnt toss him jailso they send him to "re-education" for four years.

    http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local...s-time-in-jail
    So once he is done with his 4 year abduction, he will not be able to pass a background check to be able to purchase a firearm due to psycological reasons. Our Govt rocks. Who's next???

    Edited for additional thought.

    Was this guy working? Was he a taxpayer? Not a burden on society? Did he have a criminal record? So now they have destroyed his life, he has probably lost his job, and now will be the taxpayers responsibility. WTG...
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    Aren't most Christians preparing for Armageddon? I say arrest all of 'em and put them in hospitals for 4 years each.

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    You had me scared there until I read Manchester.

    Figures.
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    The fact that this poor man was railroaded by the government isn't surprising. Massachusetts has long been a Despotic Regime and one that the founders would have risen up against in revolution.

    Every single official who came after that man is pure evil deserving of only the fate of a true traitor to the United States.
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    Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:
    The fact that this poor man was railroaded by the government isn't surprising. Massachusetts has long been a Despotic Regime and one that the founders would have risen up against in revolution.

    Every single official who came after that man is pure evil deserving of only the fate of a true traitor to the United States.
    Uh huh. Yeah, let's tell everyone involved to rally against the government. Good idea.

    The compound's that way. Don't forget your tinfoil hat.
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -John Stuart Mill

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    kwikrnu wrote:
    Aren't most Christians preparing for Armageddon? I say arrest all of 'em and put them in hospitals for 4 years each.
    I consider myself a right wing Christian.I am a war vet ,well trained combat experienced,Own several weapons and and appropriate amount of ammo for each.I have worked and paid taxes all my life and I do believe we are headed for the end of life in america as we know it if we don't take a stand.So on that basis I should be studied and relieved of my rights??? Then all of our forfathers would be considered a danger.The ones that fought the british for 11 years .If thats the way you think that is exactly what we need to defend against.You have now eright to judge me.I am the only one fit to judge Me..!

    It is THIS current gov that is the danger along with the police who think they are the law.They need to be stpped as we are moving toward a police state.If we follow that line of thinking anyone that owns more than one gun could be considered stockpiling.One more thing that will really refry your beans.Your tax dollar helped pay litterally hundreds of thousands for surgeries to keep me going.

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    killchain wrote:
    Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:
    The fact that this poor man was railroaded by the government isn't surprising. Massachusetts has long been a Despotic Regime and one that the founders would have risen up against in revolution.

    Every single official who came after that man is pure evil deserving of only the fate of a true traitor to the United States.
    Uh huh. Yeah, let's tell everyone involved to rally against the government. Good idea.

    The compound's that way. Don't forget your tinfoil hat.
    So you basically have no problem with what the government did violating, oh, I don't know... most of this man's Constitutional rights?

    The pen is over there sheeple. Get in it and enjoy the grass... and be sure to stay in the pen... because if you get out... the wolves are sure to rip you to shreds.
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    Is it against the law to prepare for Armageddon? (if so can someone provide a link?)
    Live Free or Die!

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    While I view this as mostly propaganda espoused by the government controlled media it does provoke some thought. At what point would most "prudent" people push back? It has been said that revolutions are not started by organized groups like militias, rather it is individuals who light the sparks. I have given this some thought but never considered I might become incarcerated before I could act.
    The problem with America is stupidity.
    I'm not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

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    My loved ones and my Country taught me to always be prepared for anything. Seemed like a pretty damn good lesson to follow.

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    gogodawgs wrote:
    Is it against the law to prepare for Armageddon? (if so can someone provide a link?)
    +10

    Cite please!
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    DEROS72 wrote:
    kwikrnu wrote:
    Aren't most Christians preparing for Armageddon? I say arrest all of 'em and put them in hospitals for 4 years each.
    I consider myself a right wing Christian.I am a war vet ,well trained combat experienced,Own several weapons and and appropriate amount of ammo for each.I have worked and paid taxes all my life and I do believe we are headed for the end of life in america as we know it if we don't take a stand.So on that basis I should be studied and relieved of my rights??? Then all of our forfathers would be considered a danger.The ones that fought the british for 11 years .If thats the way you think that is exactly what we need to defend against.You have now eright to judge me.I am the only one fit to judge Me..!

    It is THIS current gov that is the danger along with the police who think they are the law.They need to be stpped as we are moving toward a police state.If we follow that line of thinking anyone that owns more than one gun could be considered stockpiling.One more thing that will really refry your beans.Your tax dollar helped pay litterally hundreds of thousands for surgeries to keep me going.
    I could be wrong Deros but I think that was said in Jest
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    Bookman wrote:
    gogodawgs wrote:
    Is it against the law to prepare for Armageddon? (if so can someone provide a link?)
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    Cite please!
    +1000

    I'm starting to think this was the best post in the entire thread.... is it against the law to prepare for Armageddon?

    We need a proper citation on that....

    And in the case of the Hutaree... the news seems to be coming out that ALL (not just some) but ALL of their plans to fight police were to occur AFTER the TOTAL COLLAPSE of society... not before as the FBI alleges. So... is it against the law to plan to defend yourself after the total collapse of society?
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    Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:
    Bookman wrote:
    gogodawgs wrote:
    Is it against the law to prepare for Armageddon? (if so can someone provide a link?)
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    Cite please!
    +1000

    I'm starting to think this was the best post in the entire thread.... is it against the law to prepare for Armageddon?

    We need a proper citation on that....

    And in the case of the Hutaree... the news seems to be coming out that ALL (not just some) but ALL of their plans to fight police were to occur AFTER the TOTAL COLLAPSE of society... not before as the FBI alleges. So... is it against the law to plan to defend yourself after the total collapse of society?
    Well of course they want it too be illegal!!!!! Lookat whose going to cause the total collapse of society.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Hmm, pretty soon those that stock pile food will be accused of preparing for the end. I guess they'll just have to be re educated and the food confiscated.

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    virgil47 wrote:
    Hmm, pretty soon those that stock pile food will be accused of preparing for the end. I guess they'll just have to be re educated and the food confiscated.
    Anti-hoarding laws have been enacted in the past... no reason to think it couldn't happen again.

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    Did anyone ever watch "Surviving Disaster" with Cade Courtley? He had a pretty good episode for "Pandemic". It involved dealing with looters during a time of chaos and panic. He had very good advice.

    http://www.spike.com/full-episode/pandemic/34531

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    the government is prepared! Bunkers for them, and FEMA camps for us!

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    gogodawgs wrote:
    Is it against the law to prepare for Armageddon? (if so can someone provide a link?)
    Last i looked we were encouraged to plan for disasters,

    http://www.ready.gov/

    http://www.fema.gov/areyouready/

    Oh thats right, these plans dont mean **** if, when looting starts, you cannot protect yourself or your families.



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    DEROS72 wrote:
    kwikrnu wrote:
    Aren't most Christians preparing for Armageddon? I say arrest all of 'em and put them in hospitals for 4 years each.
    I consider myself a right wing Christian.I am a war vet ,well trained combat experienced,Own several weapons and and appropriate amount of ammo for each.I have worked and paid taxes all my life and I do believe we are headed for the end of life in america as we know it if we don't take a stand.So on that basis I should be studied and relieved of my rights??? Then all of our forfathers would be considered a danger.The ones that fought the british for 11 years .If thats the way you think that is exactly what we need to defend against.You have now eright to judge me.I am the only one fit to judge Me..!

    It is THIS current gov that is the danger along with the police who think they are the law.They need to be stpped as we are moving toward a police state.If we follow that line of thinking anyone that owns more than one gun could be considered stockpiling.One more thing that will really refry your beans.Your tax dollar helped pay litterally hundreds of thousands for surgeries to keep me going.
    Deros,

    I am sorry to say everything you are, goes againstwhat our new Furorsays is best, therefore i will have to report you because everyone knows Christians are the new Terrorists, and since you are a Vet, well that doubles your guilt, oh and you support the second amendment, constitution, bill of rights, and I bet you have a don’t tread on me flag,

    Well thatis irrefutable proof you are a danger to everyone around you, so you'll be on the top terrorist watch list soon.

    All joking asideit is getting real scary out there, which begs the question how much is too much, if i have lets say 5 guns in my house with 1000, rounds each is that stockpiling, andcan they now take away my kids and put me in a hospital forfour years because"i might be" a danger to somebody someday.



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    virgil47 wrote:
    Hmm, pretty soon those that stock pile food will be accused of preparing for the end. I guess they'll just have to be re educated and the food confiscated.
    Too late

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdLxMKuxyr4

    Steps have been taken to start legal action against the Ohio Department of Agriculture (ODA) and the Lorain County Health Department for violating the constitutional rights of John and Jacqueline Stowers of LaGrange, Ohio.

    The Stowers operate an organic food cooperative called Manna Storehouse. ODA and Lorain County Health Department agents forcefully raided their home and seized the family's personal food supply, cell phones and personal computers.

    On the morning of December 1, 2008, law enforcement officers forcefully entered the Stowers' residence without first announcing they were police or stating the purpose of the visit. With guns drawn, they swiftly and immediately moved to the upstairs of the home, where ten children were in the middle of a home-schooling lesson. Officers then moved Jacqueline Stowers and her children to their living room, where they were held for more than six hours.

    There has never been a complaint filed against Manna Storehouse or the Stowers related to the quality or healthfulness of the food distributed through the co-op

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    http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/auti...-sketch-051310

    Interesting as well, schools can now hold tribunals to see if kids are terrorists,

    Although I don’t agree with what the kid did, especially in this fear mongering age, but seriously terroristic threats, from a kid with an IQ of 75

    Doesn’t America seem to be looking more and more like Britain?



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    My don't tread on me flag is hanging outside my back deck and the immigrants don't like it.We are going to have to take a stand...Obama and Co. are flushing America as fast as they can. So we stand together or hang alone...

    I stokpile some emergency supplies etc for earthquakes,floods ,anything.And it is my right to protect it.Anytime you see a disater there is always armed bands trying to take what little folks have...and this time the armed band seems to be our own gov..

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    All my guns and ammo fell off my boat and fell into the bay. :shock:
    Thats my story, and I am sticking to it. :P
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