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    I am looking to buy my first AR 15 rifle. I would like to know what everyone's experiences are with them. Do youhave any specific recommendations? I would like something in .223 and want a 4-sided rail for accessories. Was thinking about an Armalite for their warranty. However, I am open to any and all advice. Thanks in advance!

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    if you are willing to spend the money, daniel defenses new rifle is excellent. i love mine. their omega rail is by far the lightest i've ever held and it comes with a 1:7 twist barrel for shooting heavier bullets. i've never had a ftf ,fte,etc... with mine. and it is dealy accurate with my ACOG. the only down side is the basic rifle is about $1300-1400. well worth the money in my opinion though

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    I own several AR's, but one of my favorites is my SW M&P in 5.45x39.
    I have run about 8000 rnds through it without a hiccup and ammo
    for it is cheap.Price is about $800- $1000.

    Also love my LMT and my....well I love them all!

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    Bought my Ruger SR-556 in January & LOVE IT. $ 1400.00-1500.00



    The SR-556 is a semi-automatic rifle carbine manufactured by U.S. firearms company Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.. The rifle was introduced in 2009, marking Ruger's entry into the popular AR-15 market. It is one of several new AR-15 platform rifles to utilize gas piston operation.

    overview The rifle features a patent-pending, "two stage" piston mechanism as opposed to the standard AR-15 direct impingement system. Gas flow is controlled by a four position regulator. Several key parts, such as the gas piston, gas regulator, and bolt/carrier group are chrome plated. The bolt carrier features an integral lug in place of the AR-15's gas key. The flash hider is similar to Ruger's AC-556 and Mini-14GB.

    The rifle includes a number of other manufacturer's parts such as a Troy Industries railed handguard and folding iron sights, a Hogue rubberized pistol grip, and three Magpul PMAG 30 round magazines. The barrel is 16.25 inches, chrome lined, and features a six groove, right hand, 1:9 inch twist.
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    marrero jeff wrote:
    if you are willing to spend the money, daniel defenses new rifle is excellent. i love mine. their omega rail is by far the lightest i've ever held and it comes with a 1:7 twist barrel for shooting heavier bullets. i've never had a ftf ,fte,etc... with mine. and it is dealy accurate with my ACOG. the only down side is the basic rifle is about $1300-1400. well worth the money in my opinion though
    I am not paying for it, my girlfriend is!!!! It's our compromise for her getting an engagement ring, but I get an advance on the gun! Which model do you have from them?

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    Build it yourself. I purchased a CY6 lower for $110.00, the trigger group for $65.00, my LMT with a 1:7 twist 16'' barrel including LMT bolt carrier group for $624.00, my Magpul hand guard $60.00, my Magpul 6 position stock for $68.00 and 10 Magpul 30rnd mags for $189.98 plus 1000 rnds of .223 62 grain ammo for $278.00 for a total of approx $1,487.94 (including tax). Just the weapon without tax cost me $927.00 and I've been told by the gunsmith that I had make sure everything I put together was good that if I were to buy this system off shelf, that it would cost me (without ammo or mags) around $1,500.00.

    Building it yourself also familiarizes you with the weapon that just buying a completely assembled weapon will not do.
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    Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:
    Build it yourself. I purchased a CY6 lower for $110.00, the trigger group for $65.00, my LMT with a 1:7 twist 16'' barrel including LMT bolt carrier group for $624.00, my Magpul hand guard $60.00, my Magpul 6 position stock for $68.00 and 10 Magpul 30rnd mags for $189.98 plus 1000 rnds of .223 62 grain ammo for $278.00 for a total of approx $1,487.94 (including tax). Just the weapon without tax cost me $927.00 and I've been told by the gunsmith that I had make sure everything I put together was good that if I were to buy this system off shelf, that it would cost me (without ammo or mags) around $1,500.00.

    Building it yourself also familiarizes you with the weapon that just buying a completely assembled weapon will not do.
    Can you provide me with the resources for this? I would be interested to know where you purchased everything and part numbers. PM me if you don't mind.

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    I am not paying for it, my girlfriend is!!!! It's our compromise for her getting an engagement ring, but I get an advance on the gun!
    So if you break the engagement you get the ring back, and she gets the EBR?!?!?!

    Watch out for some of the guys on this forum!

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    For AR builds try http://www.bravocompanyusa.com

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    i have the m4 carbine, everything is mil-spec. i think you'll like it a lot. they also make a 6.8 if you dont like 5.56

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    I also have a Defensive Edge CY6 lower with a Magpul UBR stock & A Busmaster trigger group , Waiting for a few months for a LMT MRP Rifle length Upper , then I will have 2 AR-15's....... a Ruger SR-556 & a Custom..

    I got 5000 rounds of 556 ammo - good to go there.

    Although I would recommend just buying one complete for your first AR15. Just my own opinion.
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    Glock34 wrote:
    I also have a Defensive Edge CY6 lower with a Magpul UBR stock & A Busmaster trigger group , Waiting for a few months for a LMT MRP Rifle length Upper , then I will have 2 AR-15's....... a Ruger SR-556 & a Custom..

    I got 5000 rounds of 556 ammo - good to go there.

    Although I would recommend just buying one complete for your first AR15. Just my own opinion.
    honestly, heavy rails will wear you down after a while... I have removable rails that work just fine. All that metal on that upper looks heavy.
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    heavy rails are a thing of the past. go pick up a larue or daniel defense. theyre featherweights. now if you go for a mid west ind. you're looking at some real weight.

    BTW, Magpul makes of the best accesories on the market. thats all i have on my rifle. magpul stock, pistol grip, foreend frip, sling, rail covers, and sights. all are excellent

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    marrero jeff wrote:

    heavy rails are a thing of the past. go pick up a larue or daniel defense. theyre featherweights. now if you go for a mid west ind. you're looking at some real weight.

    BTW, Magpul makes of the best accesories on the market. thats all i have on my rifle. magpul stock, pistol grip, foreend frip, sling, rail covers, and sights. all are excellent
    If they are a thing of the past like you say, how come everyone wants them & LMT almost can't keep them in stock ?
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    i said HEAVY rails are a thing of the past. After i noted that larue and daniel deense make extremely light rail systems. i wasnt commenting on the rail itself, i have the daniel defense omega rail. i was commenting on the weight comment.

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    also, if you're thinking about getting an ar-15, don't beleive all the hype about the direct impingement system being crap, it just isnt true. i put about 1800 rounds through mine with no cleaning in the magpul class and not a single malfunction unless we were using bad mags to simulate jam clearing drills. while a piston system is excellent (i want the hk mr556), a direct impingement system is excellent also.

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    marrero jeff wrote:
    also, if you're thinking about getting an ar-15, don't beleive all the hype about the direct impingement system being crap, it just isnt true. i put about 1800 rounds through mine with no cleaning in the magpul class and not a single malfunction unless we were using bad mags to simulate jam clearing drills. while a piston system is excellent (i want the hk mr556), a direct impingement system is excellent also.
    I had a Bushmaster XM15e2s DI Carbine for years, Never an issue with it, but it did get DIRTY & hot, while the Piston system keeps cool & clean.....I guess I like the Piston more, since the AK & FAL's have been using them since the late 40's & 50's, very reliable.
    http://youtu.be/xWgVGu3OR4U AACFI, Wisconsin / Minnesota Carry Certified. Action Pistol & Advanced Action pistol concepts + Urban Carbine course. When the entitlement Zombies begin looting, pillaging, raping, burning & killing..remember HEAD SHOTS it's the only way to kill a Zombie. Stockpile food & water now.

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    Good stuff here guys. Thanks for the input. As far as I know there isn't a local place that would let me test anything out so I will work off of your recommendations!

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    I'll add my .02,

    Buying an AR really depends on what you want the thing to do. I had a bunch of them in all different calibers before a tragic boating accident. DPMS AR10 in 300 WSM that weighs 18lbs, Bushmaster varminter, Olympic Arms frankengun with bushy lower chambered in 243WSSM, Another frankengun with parts from Oly, DPMS, Bushy, MEGAand RRA, not to mention various lowers from CDD, DPMS, MEGA, and spikes tactical.

    Building one is easy if that's the way you want to go but sometimes you can get it cheaper by purchasing it in one shot. I've never had a problem with any of the parts from any of the manufacturers I listed above. IMHO Armalite is overpriced and so is S&W and likely Remington after their aquisition of Bushmaster. DPMS and Olympic Arms are usually reasonably priced and many of the other smaller manufacturers can be as well. The only one I probably wouldn't buy (unless it was an old original) would be a Colt because the Colt has different sized pins than every other manufacturer.

    Do you want one that will drive tacks, one that's short and fast, something in-between? Those are the real questions I think.
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    That reminds me, I need to get more parts for that stripped lower I picked up the day after the last election...

    But I'm getting a recurve bow first.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    This is what scared me off AR's. So many freakin options, types, bores etc....

    I picked up a AK47 (WASR double stack). I could buy 3 for what you get for one AR. No options, no one saying my lower is better than yours or you should have gone with this upper. People say how inaccurate the AK's are, that they are cheap guns and all. I havent had any problems with it and its as accurate as I need it. I dont need to do 3 inch patterns and all that.

    Now before anyone starts flamming, I am not saying AK's are better than AR's. Only they are more user friendly, require less "fiddling" and are a lot cheaper that most AR's.

    I would still like to get an AR, but I dont need one.


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    Yeah but, I like fiddling with things.

    That's why I drive a Jeep, too.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    glock34, im not saying the piston design is a bad design, in fact i think it is an excellent system, as i stated, i would love to get an hk mr556/hk416. my point was that the DI system is not the jammomatic system many stereotype it to be. it is very reliable if you take care of your weapon and light. if you dont want to do that, get an ak-47

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    AbNo, Have you been to that new place on N. Liberty in HBurg? Very tactical/AR oriented.
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    I was not arguing with you, I agree.


    My nephew ACE was born today, I was named Godfather . next year for his 1 year Birthday , I am going to give him my, Defensive Edge CY6 lower w/ the Bushmaster Trigger Group Complete with Magpul UBR Stock plus a Rifle length A4 flattop upper with Daniel Defense quad rails. Yup, he's getting a kick azz Cutom AR.
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