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    http://1410wizm.com/web/ (if it does not work as clickable, please copy/paste into your browsers location bar. Poll is on right column) YES

    We should be able to open and/or conceal,,, imo!

    Thank you

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    Fixed the link.

    http://1410wizm.com/web/

    (on right column) YES

    We should be able to open and/or conceal,,, imo!

    Thank you

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    I wonder if a 'no' vote is a vote for open carry.

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    Excellent, thank you.



    Must be a formatting thing as I see no character difference.


    I see the yes column rising already :celebrate

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    I wonder if a 'no' vote is a vote for open carry.
    No, I'd take a no vote as, anti-gun people

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    I'm sure.

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    An avid listener of this station just told me that tomorrow morning will be the topic of concealed carry.

    "Mike gives the results over the radio at about 7:20 A.M. And asks for call in discussion."
    No matter if you are hardcore for open carry, there is more here than just open vs concealed. I see this as rights vs gun control.

    Would be nice to have the option to OC or CC

    Reading a thread on this site, someone was lobbying for the rules banning concealed carry to simply be removed since open carry is allowed (wink wink).

    Rights & choices ... it's what the red, white & blue are about correct

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    Just checked the poll ... wow, the "NOs" just jumped dramatically !

    I hope it's not people from this site that are anti-concealed ............

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    is it?

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    Well, this is OpenCarry.org

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    I wonder if a 'no' vote is a vote for open carry.
    I wonder how the talking heads will spin it, the 100 votes for open carry.

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    Well, this is OpenCarry.org


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    Wow, as the # climbs on this thread ... the "viewers" is about 100 at the moment ... the poll is climbing as well. In the -no- though.

    Are you folks voting no here?

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    The problem is we all know that a ccw bill now would only be a compromise that would take away our right to OCW and give us a privilege to CCW. With that privilege would come a fee of course, not like they don't already get enough money out of us now right?

    If they are willing to pass a CCW bill that does not infringe on our right to OCW and does not require a permit or a fee ( Other than for reciprocity) then hey I am all for it.

    The legislators would be smarter to repael the laws that interfere with our rights to carry either OCW or CCW period.

    Anything else is a compromise. It is constitutional carry or leave it the way it is IMHO.

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    This simple radio poll is gun vs anti .......... and you all take it way too far. Last time I share ... as well may even delete my account here.

    unreal

    oye

    (your reply is appreciated, but the reasons smell so republican I'd swear I can smell Dubya in the room)


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    LaCrosseKevin wrote:
    I see this as rights vs gun control.
    I think that some of us see this as rights against privilege against tyranny.

    The GOP is dead (Bush-41), dead (Bush-42), and dead (McLame) at OBONGO's hand.

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    LaCrosseKevin wrote:
    I see this as rights vs gun control.
    I think that some of us see this as rights against privilege against tyranny.
    tyranny because concealed carry may require a fee ... really?

    it sure smells otherwise

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    LaCrosseKevin wrote:
    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
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    I see this as rights vs gun control.
    I think that some of us see this as rights against privilege against tyranny.
    tyranny because concealed carry may require a fee ... really? it sure smells otherwise
    No, because a fee may be necessary for the privilege of concealed carry.

    It is not like these discussions haven't been here had before.

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    What's unreal?

    You think we should give up our right for a privilege? That is unreal!

    There is absolutely no reason why Wisconsin cannot model its laws after VT/AK/AZ.

    None! No good reason!

    Those three states have done all of the work for us, all of the research, trials, pilot programs if you will.

    They have verified the outcome and have seen that law abiding citizens carrying firearms whether concealed or open have not caused bloodbaths in the streets.

    In fact all three of these states enjoy lower crime rates then Wisconsin.

    Police in all three states still come to work every day and still go home safe and sound to their families at night, although there may be instances which indicate other wise in any states. Police officers all know those are the risks that come with the job and I may point out those risks are brought upon the officers by criminals and not law abiding firearms carriers.

    So to answer your remark, my thoughts on the matter are very real.

    Repeal these unconstitutional laws that do not allow us to ccw, carry in a GFSZ or in our vehicle and leave us alone. Stop charging us fees and requiring permits or even considering doing so.

    It is time for the legislative money pot to be spilt out to fill the pockets of the tax payers.

    Either the legislators support our rights or they get to collect unemployment!

    ETA: By the way I am a Constitutionalist and not a Republican. There is a difference you know.

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    You better call Mike's show to explain.

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    The poll simply asks if Wisconsin ought to have concealed carry. It doesn't specify any particular variations, e.g., permitted, , non-permitted, costly, cheap, free, shall-issue, may-issue, VT-style, AK-style, HI-style, or any other you can imagine. I take the question at face value: should WI have [some form] of [legal] concealed carry?

    yes/no

    I vote for a WI-style-- which would have fewer restrictions than VT.
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    Shotgun wrote:
    I vote for a WI-style-- which would have fewer restrictions than VT.
    I like your way of thinking.

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    LaCrosseKevin:

    Don't get your underwear in a bundle. Article I section 25 which is our RKBA constitutional amendment simply says: "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose". It is manner of carry neutral. That means that people should have the constitutional right to carry arms in the manner they choose, concealed or visible.If it was intended to apply to only one manner of carry it would read "The people have the right to keep and bearxxxxxxx (insert either concealed or visible) arms for --------".

    The reason you are getting the responses you are is because there is a sincere threat that if there is a public support for a concealed carry permit system that it will come as a threat to our already AG and WSSC recognized right to open carry. None of us open carry advocates on this forum want anything to do with a law that will sacrifice or infringe our existing rights. There is a real possibility thatcan happen.

    The flip-floppers such as Flynn, Chisholm and Bonavia are seeing just such an opportunity surfacing. They hope to be able to convince the legislature to enact highly restrictive concealed carry as our only legal manner of carry. I'm suprised more on this forum can't see through their "smoke and mirrors".

    Most on this forum feel that the manner of carry should be at the option of the carrier.

    The reaction on this forum has no personal intent and your information is appreciated by most I'm sure.

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    Captain Nemo wrote:
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    Don't get your underwear in a bundle. Article I section 25 which is our RKBA constitutional amendment
    Don't get my underwear in a bundle? LOL

    You say that, then go on to quote Article I section 25 blah blah blah ... whos underwear is where?

    I'm really sorry I posted this, hell, I'm seeing the people here in a different light all together now. You all have been fighting this so long, with your boycotts and balling your fists at corporations, I think you just enjoy the fight aspect now instead of what's right. Burger King anyone? lol

    None of us open carry advocates on this forum want anything to do with a law that will sacrifice or infringe our existing rights.
    Undo your underwear and don't speak for everyone on this site, or every member. There is a post on this site mentioning and organizing to just take the laws away that are against concealed carry so there are no infringements and no fees. Not everyone here thinks like you, nor should you be the sole spokesman for "of us".

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    Whoa!!! Now I see why the word Cross is in your member name. Glad that you have been a member for four days so that you have had a chance to read the hundreds of posts on this forum and have gained such an inate feeling of it's pulse.

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    May I, my Captain? My blade is much sharper than his wit.

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