Superlite27
Regular Member
imported post
I've got a few questions about Crestwood city ordinances. Seems they are originals. (Not copied from another municipality like many area ordinances.)
I see nothing specificlly mentioning OC, which would make it legal. However, several other vaguaries have attracted my attention:
Sec. 16-11 Disturbing the peace
Who gets to determine what "willfully careless conduct" means? I would argue that responsibly carrying a firearm is not, but I'm guessing an officer could choose to define OC as "willfully careless conduct". I don't think it would stand up to a jury, as the officer would then have to prove why HIS OC'ing is not "willfully careless conduct". Any guesses on whether or not this will keep him from arresting you for it in the first place?
Sec. 16-14 Breach of Peace
Apparently, conduct or "carriage" (which I interpret as the manner in which you carry yourself.....namely: armed) is against the law "if others in the area are disturbed thereby".
Doesn't this mean that if I encounter a person wearing a blue corduroy jacket, I may simply call the police and have him charged with violating Section 16-14 of Crestwood municipal code? After all, I am deeply and most irreparably disturbed by folks who wear corduroy jackets. Especially blue ones.
Most likely, I'll not encounter one of those evil corduroy jacket wearers, but I'm almost certain people will encounter me. Since it seems that it is acceptable in Crestwood code for me to call the police on corduroy wearers in my area if I find them disturbing....wouldn't it also be acceptable for folks to call the police onme if "others in the area are disturbed thereby"?
I've got a few questions about Crestwood city ordinances. Seems they are originals. (Not copied from another municipality like many area ordinances.)
I see nothing specificlly mentioning OC, which would make it legal. However, several other vaguaries have attracted my attention:
Sec. 16-11 Disturbing the peace
No person shall willfully disturb the peace of any......blah, blah, blah...and so on....etcetera.....or disturbing the quiet enjoyment of such premises by other persons through boisterous, rowdy, or willfully careless conduct.
Who gets to determine what "willfully careless conduct" means? I would argue that responsibly carrying a firearm is not, but I'm guessing an officer could choose to define OC as "willfully careless conduct". I don't think it would stand up to a jury, as the officer would then have to prove why HIS OC'ing is not "willfully careless conduct". Any guesses on whether or not this will keep him from arresting you for it in the first place?
Sec. 16-14 Breach of Peace
(Evidently "disturbing" the peace and "breaching" the peace are considered two different things in Crestwood)No person shall disturb the peace of others by violent, tumultuous, offensive conduct or carriage, or by loud......blah, blah, blah etc.....No persn shall permit any such conduct in or upon any house or premises owned or posessed by him or under his control so that others in the vicinity are disturbed thereby.
Apparently, conduct or "carriage" (which I interpret as the manner in which you carry yourself.....namely: armed) is against the law "if others in the area are disturbed thereby".
Doesn't this mean that if I encounter a person wearing a blue corduroy jacket, I may simply call the police and have him charged with violating Section 16-14 of Crestwood municipal code? After all, I am deeply and most irreparably disturbed by folks who wear corduroy jackets. Especially blue ones.
Most likely, I'll not encounter one of those evil corduroy jacket wearers, but I'm almost certain people will encounter me. Since it seems that it is acceptable in Crestwood code for me to call the police on corduroy wearers in my area if I find them disturbing....wouldn't it also be acceptable for folks to call the police onme if "others in the area are disturbed thereby"?