...sitting at the hotel lounge, discussing politics and the state of the country, I brought up the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution, stating that a huge reason that our country is like it is is because most schools don't even teach about it or what it means anymore,. Any way the bar tender states that he feels that we should be allowed to own guns just not carry them, so I ask him his reason behind such a statement. He comes out and says well he lost a friend who was a bouncer at a club a few years ago by a man who up till that point was supposedly a lawful person. He said this bouncer threw this guy out of the bar the guy came back in with a gun and shot him.
So I reply "that is horrible but the guy that shot him was not a good guy he had already made the choice to commit a crime when he went back to his car for his weapon." And the out come may have been different had the establishment allowed the bouncer to carry.
This is a great example to displayHankT's Theory Of Inverse Firearm RequirementsÂ© (HTIFRÂ©)
This theory, long in development and nearly finished, asserts that two intelligent and validentities (individuals or groups) can observe a given situation, being exposed to and comprehending exactly the same details
, and conclude opposite
positions on whether more or less guns are needed to address the given situation. Typically, one position is that more guns would better address the problem (and that less guns are a problem). This is called the MGGLGB
position. Alternatively, the other position is that less guns would better address the problem (and thatmore guns are a problem). This is called the LGGMGB
In the instant case, fisheyes holds the MGGLGB
position: More guns good, less guns bad
. The "lunatic" bartender holds the LGGMGB
position: Less guns good, more guns bad.
These two positions are logical contraries
, meaning that both positions cannot be true.
Unfortunately, this opppositional relationship tends to generate discussion (and rants and name-calling) that treat the two positions as logical contradictories
, meaning that both positions cannot be true simultaneously but that one, and only one of the positions is always true.
This leads to a classic fallacy of false bifurcation
: positing that only the MGGLGB
position or the LGGMGB
position can be true.
In reality, there are at least two other possible positions that might be right. And it is possible that both
positionand the LGGMGB
positions are false. Or irrelevant.
So even though I was dealing with idiots I was able I hope to at least steer someone in the right direction,
Ok Rant is over
Yet further support for HTIFRÂ©