lapeer20m
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Was detained this afternoon for about 25 minutes by a trooper. I was very disappointed in him, since he is a trooper.
He stated that he did not detain me for carrying a gun, but he detained me for failure to produce ID. My firearm was removed, i was frisked and put in the back of the car.
Creating the audio now, should be live within the hour.
I was carrying at an outdoor estate auction. An off duty deputy saw my pistol and requested the state trooper.
I did not stick to wash, rinse, repeat. I started the encounter out by smiling and shaking the hand of the trooper asking "how are you doing?" He asked for id, and things kind of went downhill from there.
In the end, i consider this a win. The point was made that this is not a stop and id state. The best part is that at the end, The officer re-holstered my firearm for me and we shook hands in front of a crowd of about 150 auction goers. Now lots of people are aware that open carry is legal.
I did finally give up my ID after several minutes. I did not want to spend the weekend in jail, I have to work tomorrow.
Then, he is like "what's that?" pointing at my voice recorder. He took it off my belt and began pushing buttons in an apparent attempt to delete the encounter. Without thinking, i grabbed a hold of it and we played tug-of-war for a few seconds until he gave me that "stop or i will taze you" look. Then i said "you can't delete that! That would be criminal!!" he relented and gave it back. Fortunately for me my recorder was "locked" so the buttons wouldn't work.
*edited to provide links*
Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybBX04kE0Kk
Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3znSSGgiLaY
Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0os57vNunM
Was detained this afternoon for about 25 minutes by a trooper. I was very disappointed in him, since he is a trooper.
He stated that he did not detain me for carrying a gun, but he detained me for failure to produce ID. My firearm was removed, i was frisked and put in the back of the car.
Creating the audio now, should be live within the hour.
I was carrying at an outdoor estate auction. An off duty deputy saw my pistol and requested the state trooper.
I did not stick to wash, rinse, repeat. I started the encounter out by smiling and shaking the hand of the trooper asking "how are you doing?" He asked for id, and things kind of went downhill from there.
In the end, i consider this a win. The point was made that this is not a stop and id state. The best part is that at the end, The officer re-holstered my firearm for me and we shook hands in front of a crowd of about 150 auction goers. Now lots of people are aware that open carry is legal.
I did finally give up my ID after several minutes. I did not want to spend the weekend in jail, I have to work tomorrow.
Then, he is like "what's that?" pointing at my voice recorder. He took it off my belt and began pushing buttons in an apparent attempt to delete the encounter. Without thinking, i grabbed a hold of it and we played tug-of-war for a few seconds until he gave me that "stop or i will taze you" look. Then i said "you can't delete that! That would be criminal!!" he relented and gave it back. Fortunately for me my recorder was "locked" so the buttons wouldn't work.
*edited to provide links*
Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybBX04kE0Kk
Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3znSSGgiLaY
Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0os57vNunM