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    I stopped at Walmart today before attempting to get to the Ace Rylees seminar. I was gathering the missing ingredients (strike 1) for a pie I was supposed to make for a work event tonight. I grabbed item number one, and I'm going through the produce for item number two when a manager looking fellow comes strolling over to me... (convo as I recall it)

    Him: "Excuse me, I know it isn't posted or anything, but we'd prefer you didn't carry firearms in here."

    Me: "Is that the corporate policy?"

    Him: "Well, we're getting the 'no-guns' stickers soon, and if it's posted by state law you can't carry in here."

    Me: "That's not quite the state law, but ok, again, is that corporate policy or just this store? Last I knew it was Walmart's policy to follow state law."

    Him (starting to backtrack): "Well, I'm not going to kick you out, but as a courtesy we'd prefer you didn't bring guns in the store."

    Me: "I guess I don't understand."

    Him: "Well, it's not posted, so I'm not going to ask you to leave."

    Me: "Do you intend to post it soon?"

    Him: "Well, I don't know."

    Me: "What will be different about your policy once it is posted? Will I be treated differently in a week?"

    Him: "No, I wouldn't kick you out then either. Just as a courtesy don't bring guns here."

    Me: "Okay, well, I'm confused, I think I'll just take my business elsewhere as I don't understand what your policy is and I don't like this pressure." (Setting down the item I had already picked out realizing I'm now that much further behind on my day after a wasted shopping trip)

    I still do not know if they really intend to post the store as he was backpeddling quickly by the end. I'll try to contact higher-up management this week and get clarification. I just did not have the time to deal with it then.

    To be noted, I have OC'd at this Walmart on numerous ammo-purchasing trips.

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    I'd file a complaint with corporate. Considering he isn't sure about much of anything, maybe he isn't sure he wants to continue to be a manager at Wal-Mart.
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    Pretty close to what happened to me...if this wasn't the one near Rivertown Mall, maybe the manager I dealt with moved. If you want to send "joint" communication to corporate, let me know.
    Last year I had my experience, contacted corporate, and that really didn't go anywhere. In a nutshell, they acknowledged the "follow local, state, and federal law" BUT stated that a manager can exclude anyone, as long as the issue does not concern membership in a legally protected class.

    Someone last year told me about this... and I sort of forgot about it until I was talking with Ghostrider today:

    http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns....tnership.shtml
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    DrTodd wrote:
    Pretty close to what happened to me...if this wasn't the one near Rivertown Mall, maybe the manager I dealt with moved. If you want to send "joint" communication to corporate, let me know.
    Last year I had my experience, contacted corporate, and that really didn't go anywhere. In a nutshell, they acknowledged the "follow local, state, and federal law" BUT stated that a manager can exclude anyone, as long as the issue does not concern membership in a legally protected class.

    Someone last year told me about this... and I sort of forgot about it until I was talking with Ghostrider today:

    http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns....tnership.shtml
    It was Alpine. I'd be happy to join in on some sort of communication as I did not appreciate the way the manager approached me. There had been no complaints from customers I'm sureand I was just going about my business as usual in a store that I have OC'd in numerous times before without incident. A manager acted of his own accord and wasn't even sure what it was he was confronting me on.

    Unfortunately I was so flustered and annoyed I did not get the manager's name.

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    Unfortunately walkiing out in that situation was probably the last thing you should have done. I would have told him he needs to get clarification from corporate and continued shopping. What did you gain by leaving?

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    flinch wrote:
    Unfortunately walkiing out in that situation was probably the last thing you should have done.
    Leaving was a reasonable action, from a set of possible actions.

    Especially since he felt "pressure" and was "flustered."

    He can always make the appropriate complaint at leisure.

    He could have stayed and been more insistant, too--unless the manager asked him to leave.



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    You need to call 1-800-WALMART and complain. This is not their policy and as a company they are not anti-gun. Maybe after your call they will bring this manager up to speed.

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    flinch wrote:
    Unfortunately walkiing out in that situation was probably the last thing you should have done. I would have told him he needs to get clarification from corporate and continued shopping. What did you gain by leaving?
    As I already admitted I was not in any frame of mind to be having this discussion. I'd rather take myself away from the situation and have the discussion from a distance through other proper channels. It was not the forum I wanted to have that debate in. I'm pretty good at thinking on my feet, but I did not want to have a debate of sorts. I open-carry on almost all days, even those when everything else is a little harder.

    I assure you I would not have accomplished anything by having the discussion at that time with that individual and I would worry about saying something that could be turned to a negative light which would nothave done any good for any of us. Instead I was polite and while he was trying to be polite he was failing.

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    budlight wrote:
    You need to call 1-800-WALMART and complain. This is not their policy and as a company they are not anti-gun. Maybe after your call they will bring this manager up to speed.
    I disagree... see my post above. I don't see anyone else cozying up to Mayors Against Illegal Guns like Walmart.
    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

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    Wasn't there a thread about wal-mart removing their 6 box maximum? Roseville wouldn't let me buy more than 6, and I made them ask the store manager.
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