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    I was escorted out of walmart today because of some "company Policy".

    I've open carried at this particular walmart on more than 10 different occasions without any incidents except for today. When i was trying to purchase some ammo i was asked "is this for that gun you have" and i replied "yes" . After this the clerk said that he couldnt give me the ammo if i have the weapon with me that i am buying it for. He then walked away quickly after snatching back the ammo to consult a manager at which point he was told that he had to escort me out and then he could give me the ammo at the door.

    Does this make any sense to anyone? I really felt kinda awkward being walked out like a child then given the ammo. What does this actually do? i mean its not like my weapon was unloaded anyway and if its for safety what would prevent me from walking straight back in?

    If anyone is wondering this was at the Kingstowne Walmart.I wasnt treated badly or yelled at or talked down to but this policy seems odd and kind of dumb to me. Anyone else had an experience like this?
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    I've heard about them (and other "big box" stores like Dicks and Gander Mtn) doing that with gun purchases but not ammo.

    To be honest, if I already paid for my purchase, I'd tell them to keep their hands off my property, and walk out myself.

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    I've OCd in that WalMart for over three years. And, bought ammo.

    Never been escorted out and handed theammo outside.

    Go gently, please, if you take this up with management.
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    25sierraman wrote:
    I was escorted out of walmart today because of some "company Policy".

    I've open carried at this particular walmart on more than 10 different occasions without any incidents except for today. When i was trying to purchase some ammo i was asked "is this for that gun you have" and i replied "yes" . After this the clerk said that he couldnt give me the ammo if i have the weapon with me that i am buying it for. He then walked away quickly after snatching back the ammo to consult a manager at which point he was told that he had to escort me out and then he could give me the ammo at the door.

    Does this make any sense to anyone? I really felt kinda awkward being walked out like a child then given the ammo. What does this actually do? i mean its not like my weapon was unloaded anyway and if its for safety what would prevent me from walking straight back in?

    If anyone is wondering this was at the Kingstowne Walmart.I wasnt treated badly or yelled at or talked down to but this policy seems odd and kind of dumb to me. Anyone else had an experience like this?
    I have heard of this before.

    It makes no sense.

    Tell them it is for your other gun. (like it makes any bit of difference).
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

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    I've OCd in that WalMart for over three years.┬* And, bought ammo.

    Never been escorted out and handed the┬*ammo outside.

    Go gently, please, if you take this up with management.┬*
    Honestly im not even sure how to approach this or if I even should. Its kind of odd to me and very dumb. I'm hoping to get some suggestions on here. I'm a bit angry about it.
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    25sierraman wrote:
    I was escorted out of walmart today because of some "company Policy".

    I've open carried at this particular walmart on more than 10 different occasions without any incidents except for today. When i was trying to purchase some ammo i was asked "is this for that gun you have" and i replied "yes" . After this the clerk said that he couldnt give me the ammo if i have the weapon with me that i am buying it for. He then walked away quickly after snatching back the ammo to consult a manager at which point he was told that he had to escort me out and then he could give me the ammo at the door.

    Does this make any sense to anyone? I really felt kinda awkward being walked out like a child then given the ammo. What does this actually do? i mean its not like my weapon was unloaded anyway and if its for safety what would prevent me from walking straight back in?

    If anyone is wondering this was at the Kingstowne Walmart.I wasnt treated badly or yelled at or talked down to but this policy seems odd and kind of dumb to me. Anyone else had an experience like this?
    I have heard of this before.

    It makes no sense.

    Tell them it is for your other gun.┬* (like it makes any bit of difference).
    you know i actually tried. my buddy was buying 40sw and i was buying 9mm so we tried to just buy each others ammo. lol but i didnt want to come off as a smart ass so i didnt press it any further.
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    25sierraman wrote:
    I was escorted out of walmart today because of some "company Policy".

    I've open carried at this particular walmart on more than 10 different occasions without any incidents except for today. When i was trying to purchase some ammo i was asked "is this for that gun you have" and i replied "yes" . After this the clerk said that he couldnt give me the ammo if i have the weapon with me that i am buying it for. He then walked away quickly after snatching back the ammo to consult a manager at which point he was told that he had to escort me out and then he could give me the ammo at the door.

    Does this make any sense to anyone? I really felt kinda awkward being walked out like a child then given the ammo. What does this actually do? i mean its not like my weapon was unloaded anyway and if its for safety what would prevent me from walking straight back in?
    I can see how it'd make sense from a perspective that was concerned about legal liability. Kind of strained thinking, but it'd make some sense.

    Lawyers. Think lawyers. Then it will make sense that it makes sense to them.

    As far as your feeling that you were being walked out "like a child," well you are not a child, so that is not a good perception to have. It's just corporate/legal/management(mismanagement) rigamarole.



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    To be honest, if I already paid for my purchase, I'd tell them to keep their hands off my property, and walk out myself.
    What would you have done if they insisted, as was the case with 25SM?




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    nova wrote:
    To be honest, if I already paid for my purchase, I'd tell them to keep their hands off my property, and walk out myself.
    What would you have done if they insisted, as was the case with 25SM?


    continue acting like a tough guy and demand my money back, while making a scene that gives gun owners a bad name.


    OK, now that I've gotten that internet gun forum BS out of the way...

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    I've OCd in that WalMart for over three years. And, bought ammo.

    Never been escorted out and handed theammo outside.

    Go gently, please, if you take this up with management.
    Honestly im not even sure how to approach this or if I even should. Its kind of odd to me and very dumb. I'm hoping to get some suggestions on here. I'm a bit angry about it.
    Oh, I wouldn't be angry. Bored, maybe. Maybe, double-bored. Because of the idea that someone might load his gun and start shooting with his newly purchased ammo. (sigh)

    In the big picture, though, they still allow OC in many stores ifpermitted by state law(manager's discretion as I understand it.) If they want to be super-cautious and not sell the same ammo as fits the OCd gun out of some misguided fear, I'll take that over a complete OC ban.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    nova wrote:
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    nova wrote:
    To be honest, if I already paid for my purchase, I'd tell them to keep their hands off my property, and walk out myself.
    What would you have done if they insisted, as was the case with 25SM?
    continue acting like a tough guy and demand my money back, while making a scene that gives gun owners a bad name.


    OK, now that I've gotten that internet gun forum BS out of the way...
    I can see how you'd want to take a stand, Nova, and demand cancellation of the transaction.

    But why would you want to make a scene that shows gun carriers in a bad light? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    It's never happened to me, but I don't think I'd like being treated like 25SM was. I think I would have, like you, cancelled the transaction. Unless it was ammo that was at a reallllly at a good price.

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    HankT wrote:
    nova wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    nova wrote:
    To be honest, if I already paid for my purchase, I'd tell them to keep their hands off my property, and walk out myself.
    What would you have done if they insisted, as was the case with 25SM?
    continue acting like a tough guy and demand my money back, while making a scene that gives gun owners a bad name.


    OK, now that I've gotten that internet gun forum BS out of the way...
    I can see how you'd want to take a stand, Nova, and demand cancellation of the transaction.

    But why would you want to make a scene that shows gun carriers in a bad light? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    It's never happened to me, but I don't think I'd like being treated like 25SM was. I think I would have, like you, cancelled the transaction. Unless it was ammo that was at a reallllly at a good price.
    Well since you don't open carry it probably never will happen to you.



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    HankT wrote:
    nova wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    nova wrote:
    To be honest, if I already paid for my purchase, I'd tell them to keep their hands off my property, and walk out myself.
    What would you have done if they insisted, as was the case with 25SM?
    continue acting like a tough guy and demand my money back, while making a scene that gives gun owners a bad name.


    OK, now that I've gotten that internet gun forum BS out of the way...
    I can see how you'd want to take a stand, Nova, and demand cancellation of the transaction.

    But why would you want to make a scene that shows gun carriers in a bad light? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    It's never happened to me, but I don't think I'd like being treated like 25SM was. I think I would have, like you, cancelled the transaction. Unless it was ammo that was at a reallllly at a good price.
    There, I made that bigger for you, since you didn't detect my sarcasm :P

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    nova wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    nova wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    nova wrote:
    To be honest, if I already paid for my purchase, I'd tell them to keep their hands off my property, and walk out myself.
    What would you have done if they insisted, as was the case with 25SM?
    continue acting like a tough guy and demand my money back, while making a scene that gives gun owners a bad name.


    OK, now that I've gotten that internet gun forum BS out of the way...
    I can see how you'd want to take a stand, Nova, and demand cancellation of the transaction.

    But why would you want to make a scene that shows gun carriers in a bad light? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    It's never happened to me, but I don't think I'd like being treated like 25SM was. I think I would have, like you, cancelled the transaction. Unless it was ammo that was at a reallllly at a good price.
    There, I made that bigger for you, since you didn't detect my sarcasm :P
    Yah, I saw that. But it doesn't make any sense.

    What would you do, really?

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    25sierraman wrote:
    I was escorted out of walmart today because of some "company Policy".

    I've open carried at this particular walmart on more than 10 different occasions without any incidents except for today. When i was trying to purchase some ammo i was asked "is this for that gun you have" and i replied "yes" . After this the clerk said that he couldnt give me the ammo if i have the weapon with me that i am buying it for. He then walked away quickly after snatching back the ammo to consult a manager at which point he was told that he had to escort me out and then he could give me the ammo at the door.

    Does this make any sense to anyone? I really felt kinda awkward being walked out like a child then given the ammo. What does this actually do? i mean its not like my weapon was unloaded anyway and if its for safety what would prevent me from walking straight back in?

    If anyone is wondering this was at the Kingstowne Walmart.I wasnt treated badly or yelled at or talked down to but this policy seems odd and kind of dumb to me. Anyone else had an experience like this?
    I've never had a problem, even on the rare occasions they've got 38 on the shelf at my local store. Of course, now the counter staff knows me, so they know what I'm usually shopping for, and help me if they can. Lately, of course, all they've had in was 9mm, and since I'm not carrying that gun, the situation differs from yours.

    I'd probably end up saying something smart-alecky, such as explaining how my gun is already loaded to capacity, so additional ammo isn't going to change anything while I'm on Walmart property. Or biting my tongue, really hard.

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    Yah, I saw that. But it doesn't make any sense.

    What would you do, really?
    If I already had my purchase in-hand, I would leave as normal.

    If they had not handed me my purchase and told me they'd have to "walk me out", I'd politely ask to see a manager so s/he could confirm this "company policy" since I think they might be confusing it with their policy regarding gun purchases.

    Plus, I'd probably just say "no" to the question they asked him in the first place, and avoid the situation altogether. Like answering "machinegun" when they ask you if the .22LR you're buying is for a handgun or a rifle.

    The "make a scene that makes gun owners look bad" was a poor attempt at humor. On a different well known "black rifle" forum there's a joke about a guy who was "accosted" by a greeter wanting to check his recipt, with the guy responding by "YOU WILL NOT TOUCH ME!!!!" followed by a bunch of funny/dumb/fake stuff.

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    SNIP I'd probably end up saying something smart-alecky, such as explaining how my gun is already loaded to capacity, so additional ammo isn't going to change anything while I'm on Walmart property.
    That gives me an idea.

    Lean in close and conspiratorially whisper, "My gun is already fully loaded.It doesn't have room for the stuff you're about tosell me." (say it with a smile)


    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    So let me get this straight. He won't sell you ammo for your legally OC'd firearm because it's for your OC'd firearm?

    Whatexactly is he afraid you are going to do, empty all your expensive, hard-to-find defense ammo from your magazines, and then reload a bunch of crappy, FMJ Walmart ammo and THEN shoot up the place?

    Did he fail to realize that you ALREADY had ammo loaded into your gun? And probably a spare loaded mag to boot?

    What an idiot.

    BTW, this is NOT any sort of official Walmart policy. It is BS.

    I have purchased PLENTY of ammo in Walmarts in VA and NC while OCing, and never had an issue.
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    I have OC and purchased at that very Wal Mart. I love how "company policy" comes up. Maybe ask for a copy and see what comes up?

    I may have to make an OC run there later to return some items. Wonder if they have 9mm in stock?

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    I've not had issues at this Walmart before.

    AFAIK, there are only 2 or 3 people that regularly work the ammo counter there, at least in the hours when I am in the store. Did they get a new employee or is this new behavior by one of the others?

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    25sierraman wrote:
    I was escorted out of walmart today because of some "company Policy".

    I've open carried at this particular walmart on more than 10 different occasions without any incidents except for today. When i was trying to purchase some ammo i was asked "is this for that gun you have" and i replied "yes" . After this the clerk said that he couldnt give me the ammo if i have the weapon with me that i am buying it for. He then walked away quickly after snatching back the ammo to consult a manager at which point he was told that he had to escort me out and then he could give me the ammo at the door.

    Does this make any sense to anyone? I really felt kinda awkward being walked out like a child then given the ammo. What does this actually do? i mean its not like my weapon was unloaded anyway and if its for safety what would prevent me from walking straight back in?

    If anyone is wondering this was at the Kingstowne Walmart.I wasnt treated badly or yelled at or talked down to but this policy seems odd and kind of dumb to me. Anyone else had an experience like this?
    I was there as well yesterday. I go there ALL THE TIME without any problems. I bought pillow cases from there yesterday at 8:04pm according to my receipt. The person selling you the ammo must have been new or from a different department. They are typically very easy to purchase from and have never once questioned whether or not the ammo I was purchasing was for the same gun that I was wearing.

    I might simply let it fly....it might be, according to my experiences, as freak occurrence. In the future you know to tell them that NO. Its not for the gun that is currently at your side.

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    I gotta call BS on the whole story. Walmart never has ammo. :X

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    I gotta call BS on the whole story. Walmart never has ammo. :X
    This one does. And after going to several yesterday....many have lots. But mostly 9mm, 223 and 40.

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    richarcm wrote:
    zoom6zoom wrote:
    I gotta call BS on the whole story. Walmart never has ammo. :X
    This one does. And after going to several yesterday....many have lots. But mostly 9mm, 223 and 40.
    he didn't mean GIRLS AMMO.. He meant GUYS AMMO. .45, 10mm and 6.8
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    ed wrote:
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    zoom6zoom wrote:
    I gotta call BS on the whole story. Walmart never has ammo. :X
    This one does. And after going to several yesterday....many have lots. But mostly 9mm, 223 and 40.
    he didn't mean GIRLS AMMO.. He meant GUYS AMMO. .45, 10mm and 6.8
    I hate you Ed

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    What would they do if you were escorted out, put the newly purchased ammo in your vehicle and went back in to do the rest of your shopping?

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