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Thread: Kroger Stores: "No Guns" Policy Rolled Out in Ohio

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    It appears that Kroger has just rolled out a new policy against Ohioans forbidding them from carrying their firearms where it would otherwise be legal. Ohioans for Concealed Carry carries the reports and thread here:

    http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=42653

    Kroger stores (aka Fry's, King Soopers, City Market & Dillons) are all over the U.S. Even though this is an Ohio issue for now, let's make sure Kroger (www.kroger.com) hears from all of us who have their stores in our areas, so we can nip this bad stuff in the bud.

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    Kroger is starting to backpedal--but they still do NOT have a proper understanding of the Ohio Revised Code statutes regarding firearms carry and different types of Class D liquor licenses.

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    Email to Fred Meyer/Kroger:

    "I recently became aware that Fred Meyer/Kroger has instituted a new policy banning legally carried firearms from your stores. I moved to Idaho 3 years ago from Indiana and I was pleased to find the Kroger brand available through Fred Meyer. I have been a loyal customer for over ten years, and a quick check of my Quicken account shows I have spent just under $23,000 at your store. I am a firm believer in a citizen's right to self defense and I am duly authorized by law to carry a firearm in my state. Many other businesses including Starbuck's Coffee and Walmart have a policy that mirrors state law; if it is legal in the state you live in, it is legal in their store. Could you clarify your policy for me? Is it your policy to ban law abiding citizen's from your stores? Thank you for your timely response."

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    Any response to your email?
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    No response as of yet. The only thing I received was an automated electronic acknowledgement that my comment was received.

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    jmelvin wrote:
    No response as of yet. The only thing I received was an automated electronic acknowledgement that my comment was received.
    Same here.

    "One of our E-Communications Specialists will read and address your comments personally. This often requires some time for research before replying but please be assured we are working very hard to get back to you as quickly as possible."

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    There's an extensive discussion about this on DefensiveCarry.com. Many people have been emailing and calling Kroger and now seem to be gettingthe run-around.

    Link: Kroger now banning CCW
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    apparently it was only a matter of time before the quacamolli complained.:shock:

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    I finally got a response today, but even though I sent this through the Kroger website, the response only mentioned Fred Meyer. They are basically the same company from what I understand. Did anyone else receive a similar response about Kroger specifically?

    Dear *******

    Thank you for your inquiry.

    Fred Meyer has stores in Alaska, Idaho, Oregon and Washington. All four states allow for open carry with some restrictions to jails, courthouses, airports, schools, etc, but have no restrictions to other public places.

    Our current policy is that we follow state law and allow open carry of a firearm.

    Sincerely,



    Patricia Ann Robb
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    Reference: 8986048



    CUSTOMER COMMENTS:
    I recently became aware that Fred Meyer/Kroger has instituted a new policy banning legally carried firearms from your stores. I moved to Idaho 3 years ago from Indiana and I was pleased to find the Kroger brand available through Fred Meyer. I have been a loyal customer for over ten years, and a quick check of my Quicken account shows I have spent just under $23,000 at your store. I am a firm believer in a citizen's right to self defense and I am duly authorized by law to carry a firearm in my state. Many other businesses including Starbuck's Coffee and Walmart have a policy that mirrors state law; if it is legal in the state you live in, it is legal in their store. Could you clarify your policy for me? Is it your policy to ban law abiding citizen's from your stores? Thank you for your timely response.

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    Something interesting I just noticed. I never mentioned OC in my email. My question was just about carry in general, yet the reply specifically spells out OC. Seems like someone has been watching the news and is starting to "get it."

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    I finally received a response today of my own. I'll post it up some time this evening after work. Everything sounded okey dokey for carry in VA, but the e-mail indicated that may not be the case everywhere (despite state law).

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    If you Google "Kroger Robberies" you'll get page after page after page of stories where, apparently, a "no guns" policy did not work.

    Of course, maybe Ohio is different.

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    Here is the response I received from Kroger.

    "From: Blanton, Diane (diane.blanton@kroger.com)

    Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with our Conceal Carry policy. Please know that our company follows state laws regarding this issue and policies may vary depending on the laws of the state in which you reside. I have shared your comments with the Regional Office for their review. Again, thank you for contacting us.


    Regards,

    The Kroger Co.
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    Not really an answer but maybe they will get tired of receiving emails. We do have another email address to use now though!


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    Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with our Conceal Carry policy. Please know that our company follows state laws regarding this issue and policies may vary depending on the laws of the state in which you reside. I have shared your comments with the Regional Office for their review. Again, thank you for contacting us.



    Regards,



    The Kroger Co.

    Consumer Affairs



    I got the same bs email back.

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    Even though Fred Meyer is a Kroger controlled chain, they are much different. Fred Meyer sells firearms and ammunition in all of the Alaska stores and several in Oregon. Can't say I've ever seen handguns for sale in any of the other Kroger chains.

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    Double post....ooops

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    I OC'ed my 1911 in the Kroger on Pleasant Ave. in Fairfield Sunday night at 10:30PM. The doors weren't posted. The manager rung me up, and while she questioned the legality of OC and my "need" to carry a gun, she listened to my point of view and was nonconfrontational. It was a pleasant exchange and no police were called for a MWAG.

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    A couple of weeks ago I talked to the store manager about the incident. He informed me that because a bank and a pharmacy are in the store people can't carry. I informed him that is not the law. He stood there like a deer in the headlights.

    I asked him what would he do if I open carried in the store. Again, he stood there like a deer in the headlights, no answer.

    This store manager is pathetic.

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    Let me know if you want some company at Kroger's, COL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian D. View Post
    Let me know if you want some company at Kroger's, COL.
    I'm only in Fairfield once or twice a year.

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    Is this in Ohio only? We have 2 Krogers in town, only grocery store also, and I have oc'd and never a problem. Ind here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogeater f6 View Post
    Is this in Ohio only? We have 2 Krogers in town, only grocery store also, and I have oc'd and never a problem. Ind here.
    Only this one store. There is nothing worse than a Kroger manager getting his panties in a knot over guns. Apparently, he needs wine tastings every day to deal with life.

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    goshen, fieldertle....

    they are starting to post " warning it is illegal to carry a gun in a "liscienced D" establishment" glad they dont understand what that means... but seriously they need to stop attempting to resrict our rights! or ill go to miejer
    just emailed waiting for a respounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greatsimon View Post
    they are starting to post " warning it is illegal to carry a gun in a "liscienced d" establishment" glad they dont understand what that means... But seriously they need to stop attempting to resrict our rights! Or ill go to miejer
    just emailed waiting for a respounce.
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    http://www.com.ohio.gov/liqr/PermitsActiveB.aspx

    2923.121(e) Any person who is carrying a valid license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun issued to the person under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code or a license to carry a concealed handgun that was issued to the person by another state with which the attorney general has entered into a reciprocity agreement under section 109.69 of the Revised Code and who possesses the firearm in a retail store with D-6 and D-8 permits issued for that store under sections 4303.182 and 4303.184 of the Revised Code or a D-8 permit issued for that store under section 4303.184 of the Revised Code, as long as the person is not consuming liquor or under the influence of alcohol or a drug of abuse.
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