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swine wrote:
Bullbleep! Should we go back and do animal sacrifices because the bible says we should do them every sunday?
We have to live in the modern 21st century. We can't continue living in the 18th century. It's OVER! We can't go back there. I DON'T have to go back. I CAN'T go back and neither can YOU! Sheesh!
This particular argument is so full of factual holes, religious hatred, and pseudo-academic BS that it barely merits discussion.
But I just can't help myself...
First, Since you seem to be such an authority on Old Testament Biblical Law, I assume you've read the original Torah in Hebrew.
Oh you haven't? Well, maybe the medieval Latin? No?
Perhaps you've read the original English translation, the KJV? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and we'll work under the premise that you have in fact at least read the King James translation.
So first, you need to understand that in the Old Testament texts, you are reading a written down version of a text that was based on an oral tradition--one which predates the first written Hebrew versions by at least a thousand years. Second, the Latin versions that were used as sources for the KJV were actually based largely on Arabic and Greek translations--NOT the original Hebrew. Then the KJV versions were made by people who neither had access to the original Hebrew scrolls, nor were fluent in ancient Hebrew, so they had no way to check for the accuracy of the original sources.
Then you need to remember that most of these texts started life as metered Hebrew and Aramaic poetry. Poetry that was translated into PROSE through at least three linguistic translations before making it into English, which pretty much guarantees that ANY of the subtleties, nuances, and layered meanings will be stripped out, rendering these texts to be largely meaningless in terms of spiritual, literary, and emotive merit.
Then you need to understand that much of Post-Elizabethan English is essentially a foreign language to most modern English Speakers, and the meaning of many words (like "virgin", beast, and "to know") has changed TREMENDOUSLY in the intervening 400+ years.
So I'm assuming it must be your lack of fluency in Hebrew, or Latin, or 17th Century English that caused you to read the Bible as saying animal sacrifices were supposed to be made on Sunday.
Because the Jewish Shabbat is, in fact, on
SATURDAY. And if you bothered to actually READ the Old Testament, you would find that NOWHERE does it say that sacrifices were to be made EVERY Shabbat, only on special ones, or when you were petitioning G*d for a specific blessing, or on high festivals.
Now If you've got a problem with Jewish folk and their religious tradition, that's YOUR issue, but I think everyone else will agree that your slander of Hebrew religious traditions is bordering on anti-semitism, and THAT, my good man, will NOT be tolerated on this forum. (but it might explain your screen name...)
But if it's the general idea of the ritual slaughter of animals that you have an issue with, then I guess there are thousands of Kosher and Halal butcher shops (and millions of their customers), and several hundred thousand practitioners of Santeria, Voudon, Candomble, Yoruban traditional religions, and Hindu's that you must dismiss as being "wrong" and "outdated. I would offer that there are tens of million people in North, Central and South America, the Caribbean, Western Africa, Europe, the Middle East and Asia who would beg to differ...
You obviously have NO experience with academic research or historical analysis of literature, and it is quite apparent that your understanding of the language of legal texts is on par with that of the average spoon.
It is also quite evident that your cultural literacy is about as sophisticated as a Brittany Spears video, and your understanding and comprehension of the world's sacred religious texts is about as deep as a Dixie cup.
All that said, it's been fun watching you flail around, wallowing in your own ignorance.
But it's getting messy and offensive, and I think maybe the prudent thing to do would be to put this thread to bed before it gets any more messy.
Enjoy wallowing in your own pseudo-intellectual offal. We won't be watching any more...
P.S. Please put your location on your profile. I need some new places to write reviews for OC experiences, and I'd LOVE to meet your baseball-loving friends. I've got ALL summer open for travel, and my wife and daughter BOTH carry too.
