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    http://www.eastbaydaze.com/2010/05/o...lafayette.html

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    Monday, May 17, 2010








    Open Carry Debate Comes To Lafayette

    They should have held this at the Roundup Saloon, in our opinion, but instead the Commonwealth Club has opted to host a discussion on the Open Carry movement and Second Amendment rights at the Lafayette Veterans Memorial Hall.

    Check your iron at the door. We make light, but we don't know if Open Carry folks who may be in attendance during the June 17 discussion will be allowed to come "strapped." We do know that local police are not exactly thrilled with the possibility of people wearing guns at a public meeting.

    "Open carry groups have been congregating at different locations to demonstrate their right to carry unloaded, unconcealed fire arms in public. Others have come out en mass (sic) to protest this right," a flier for the event intones. "...As the state struggles with what’s right – constitutionally and morally – we take a close look at this controversy from all sides."

    "Guns in Public, Exploring California's Open Carry Policy" will be debated by Lori Saldaña, California State Assembly Member and author of AB1934 - legislation that would make carrying even an unloaded, holstered firearm for anything except parade purposes a misdemeanor; Karen Arntzen, California Chapter Services Coordinator, Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Adnan Shahab, Republican candidate for State Assembly and an Open carry advocate.

    Additional panelists will be announced as they are added to the night's agenda.

    "Guns in Public"
    Thursday, June 17
    Lafayette Veterans Memorial Hall
    3780 Mt. Diablo Blvd.
    5:30 p.m. check in, 6:30 p.m. program
    Tickets: $12 members, $22 non-members, $7 students (with valid ID)
    For Tickets and Info: 415 597-6705

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    Nice work Adnan! Willing to go double teamed to speak out, well done sir.

    This piece of information along with a piece of information which states that the Brady campaign will have a rally promoting AB 1934 at the assembly on June 16th gives me hope that the ruling for McDonald will come out before this bill has a chance to become law.

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    I wonder if I should show up...

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    pullnshoot25 wrote:
    I wonder if I should show up...
    why would you want to? We are the bay area people that you say you want to "slap the **** out of"....



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    I will attend. Who else? Come on folks - rally caps!!!

    Carry On

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    Iopencarry wrote:
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    I wonder if I should show up...
    why would you want to?* We are the bay area people that you say you want to "slap the @#$% out of"....

    *
    My oh my, what hath come forth from this opportunistic little **** here on OCDO?

    Just for the record, you ignorant simpleton, I do not have a problem with the NorCal or Bay Area guys. What I DID have a problem with, however, was the way some of you guys chose to cause problems with Starbucks, try to rewrite some of the standard information and whatever other activities I have found to be annoying that I cannot quite recall at this moment. Other than that (and most of that has been rectified), everything else has been relatively kosher.

    Back to homework.

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    aww so you dont like your own words used? then do not say them in the first palce.



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    Iopencarry wrote:
    aww so you dont like your own words used? then do not say them in the first palce.

    *
    ...got proof?

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    pullnshoot25 wrote:
    If there were a way for me to not only disown but slap all of the NorCal guys, I would do it.

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    Iopencarry wrote:
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    If there were a way for me to not only disown but slap all of the NorCal guys, I would do it.
    It is nice that you not only forged my words but you purposefully neglected to include the statement that followed.

    Since you seem to be incapable of honesty in both word and deed, allow me to quote it for you.

    I will autocorrect and direct my dismay towards the dumbass event organizers.

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    ok, this is done, you were and are the one who has said anything at all negative towards a fellow OC'er.

    I have not nor will I.



    you need to stay in school and grow up a little bit before you are trusted

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    Iopencarry wrote:
    ok, this is done, you were and are the one who has said anything at all negative towards a fellow OC'er.

    I have not nor will I.



    you need to stay in school and grow up a little bit before you are trusted
    I will be sure to take that advice to heart, right away! :quirky

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    You two should both show up and thumb wrestle for bragging rights. This is the second debate on this topic that the commonwealth club is having. Amusingly enough the only people they can find to be for banning a civil right are the ones who were at the podium at Saldana's AB 1934 press conference.

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    bigtoe416 wrote:
    You two should both show up and thumb wrestle for bragging rights. This is the second debate on this topic that the commonwealth club is having. Amusingly enough the only people they can find to be for banning a civil right are the ones who were at the podium at Saldana's AB 1934 press conference.
    HAHA!

    It is always fun to have a canned audience.

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    Livermoron wrote:
    I will attend. Who else? Come on folks - rally caps!!!

    Carry On

    Livermoron
    I'm going to attend also.

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    How ironic, the debate (1A) of the limitation of a right (2A) in a Veterans Memorial Hall.

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    merle wrote:
    How ironic, the debate (1A) of the limitation of a right (2A) in a Veterans Memorial Hall.
    OK< who said the hall is off limits to gun carry? Why?

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    Mike wrote:
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    How ironic, the debate (1A) of the limitation of a right (2A) in a Veterans Memorial Hall.
    OK< who said the hall is off limits to gun carry?* Why?
    There is no reason to ban carry, they just want to.

    However, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

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    sorry, but there is a k-8 school across the street.

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    If permission is granted, or not expressly withheld, uoc at the event is just fine as it is private property... You will just not be able to uoc en route to the event.

    Carry On

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    You know what I find really interesting? That you actually have to BUY tickets to attend a debate that concerns an attempt by an elected official to pass a law that bans a currently legal activity.

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    pullnshoot25 wrote:
    Iopencarry wrote:
    ok, this is done, you were and are the one who has said anything at all negative towards a fellow OC'er.

    I have not nor will I.



    you need to stay in school and grow up a little bit before you are trusted
    I will be sure to take that advice to heart, right away! :quirky
    Yeah, so...? We're not supposed to criticize someone if they do something moronic that could paint open carriers in a bad light? and believe me, there have been a few who've done just that. I think it's fair to say that part of the reason that where we're at right now is a result of some open carriers who couldn't be bothered to listen to those who knew better, and just had to push the envelope. So yeah, we certainly have the right to feel annoyed with them. And as far as Pullnshoot being annoyed with or not being annoyed with the Bay Area people, it's irrelevant to whether he should attend or not, since this law affects ALL Californians, not just those in the bay Area.
    And another thing, why does he need to "stay in school and grow up a little bit..." He's been active in the open carry movement for a couple years now, and has contributed to the movement. I find it amusing that you claim to have never said anything negative towards another open carrier, nor ever will, but then you type that little barb there...

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    Iopencarry wrote:
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    If there were a way for me to not only disown but slap all of the NorCal guys, I would do it.
    don't worry, if all of us in so cal. sit on our ass and let this bill ruin our 2a in Kalifornia, I am sure Nor Cal. will politely bow out in the form of something like- "The State of Jefferson" hehe Yes, and all of us smart folk in So. Cal. will finally get that socialist treatment, that only a state of laziness and arrogance, on a magnitude found here in the heart of So. Cali. could afford. yes, watch out, its yer dear life at stake. Oh yeh. No Biggie. The prudent hear of disaster coming and turn away, the careless go on, and will pay with their lives, for their folly even for,... generations and generations. I would cry for them but its their own path they walk, me no feel sorry fer dem. Im just a soldier at war for my soul, better for me, if you want to fight fer your own soul too. We all have to keep it together. or- er, uh, der, duh--- what you think will happen? Better wise up dear children. hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!LoL with tears of course.

    So sad,
    Joe not so... cool

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    F R E E S O U L .CA wrote:
    Iopencarry wrote:
    pullnshoot25 wrote:
    If there were a way for me to not only disown but slap all of the NorCal guys, I would do it.
    *
    don't worry, if all of us in so cal. sit on our ass and let this bill ruin our 2a in Kalifornia, I am sure Nor Cal. will politely bow out in the form of something like- "The State of Jefferson" hehe * Yes, and all of us smart folk in So. Cal. will finally get that socialist treatment, that only a state of laziness and arrogance, on a magnitude found here in the heart of So. Cali. could afford. yes, watch out, its yer dear life at stake.* Oh yeh. No Biggie.* The prudent hear of disaster coming and turn away, the careless go on, and will pay with their lives, for their folly even for,... * generations and generations.* I would cry for them but its their own path they walk, me no feel sorry fer dem.* Im just a soldier at war for my soul, better for me, if you want to fight fer your own soul too. We all have to keep it together.* or- er, uh, der, duh--- what you think will happen?* Better wise up dear children. hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!LoL with tears of course.

    So sad,
    Joe not so... cool
    I have read this post about five times and I still can't figure out what you are saying or even what you are tripping on. Were you trying to insult someone or ?

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    insults? oh no. that's not my nature.



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