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sudden valley gunner wrote:
Nutczak wrote:
zack991 wrote:
I think if you have not committed any crime then there is zero reason to be silent. Simply gun owner need to be careful in how and what you tell police, verses coming on an a arrogant gun owner who refuses to say nothing to the police. A good way a person can turn an innocent miss understanding to a full blow legal battle because they chose to be rude and refusing to answer ANY honest questions.
So exercising your rights is considered arrogant by you? WTF?!
Thus the problem with the many mindset in our nation. I can't tell you how many times I've been labeled uncooperative by the police for simply trying to exercise my rights.
What I am saying is i see a lot people from the many videos and personal experience that they will refuse to give their names or follow any of the police commands, yet have no problem trying to show their superiority in their knowledge of the gun laws. Some people who feel the need to try and out smart the police on what they can and cant do. Even though in most cases they are right according to the law they feel the need to make a public scene then waiting for their day in court. In turn they just get charged for other things because they can not control their tonged.
I am not saying this is everyone, but far too many think this is a valid way to fight police that are uninformed as to what the law says. Instead of the open carry movent be seen as a calm, correlative group, many see us the other way around. When some gun owners lash out at the police when stopped yet refuse to answer any simple questions, Name, ID. Yet will ramble off what the police are doing is illegal we are seen as combative and uncooperative.
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I am not saying you should give up your rights or answer every or any questions. I am saying if your going to not give them your name, ID or answer any simple question then do not make a scene, wait for your day in court. Simple say what I am doing is perfectly legal and nothing I am doing is illegal. If you chose to say nothing else such as your name or give them a ID that is fine, then say nothing else.
Do not go rambling on. It will be that much more the police will try to use against you in court and that much more you have to defend. When being asked by the police when stopped is not the time to show your superiority in the knowledge of what the law say. When it goes to court, that will be the right time to embarrass the police on their lack of Knowledge of the law not on the side of the road.
I should have worded it better, people who exercising their rights to remain silent are not arrogant, but those who refuse to answer any question the police ask them yet continue to speak in hopes of embarrassing the police in their lack of knowledge of the law is arrogant.
We only need to state that what we are doing is 100% legal and do not fall into their trap of baiting you to continue to ramble on. If people are going to remain silent then stay silent do not try to prove your case on the side of the road.
Cliff notes version. If your going to remain silent, then do so. Do not try your case on the side of the road when it will only add to the case against you. Do not come off as arrogant telling them all the laws they are breaking by stopping us, yet refuse to answer and simple questions. Don't come off as an ass to the police even if they are to you, let that work for you. Do not make a scene like so many feel they have too, that will work against you in court.
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