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    I apologize I just assumed that they were here for sunday I found out my neighbor is a retired officer from 3 years ago, so he called the two officers that were here and told me later what happened. I guess when my neighbor (Immigrant) across the street flagged down a cop hesaid he saw me and said I threatened him with my gun, when he meant to say scared him. So bad part on the sheriff / not officer.

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    erich_kopp wrote:
    I was carrying at the Farmers Market last sunday and was contacted today by the police they said that I need to conceal it and if I'm carrying it this way, I'm looking for trouble!people who do this are notlaw abiding citizins anddon't need to own any firearms and it's a good way to get locked up. I guess I'm not the only one? I asked what did I do wrong I never pulled, reached, and or even touched my firearm. they said that's not the point, you have a CPL souse it! Or well take it away!
    How were you contacted today about an event on Sunday? In person? by phone?

    How did they find out about who you are?

    The officer is flatly wrong.
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    Could you give some more detail, please?

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    Mistake number 1: Giving them your name.
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    I too find this highly irregular. I've been told by the local PD (Everett) that I am well within my rights to open carry as long as I don't threaten anyone with it. Simple right? Though I was surprised that even with that statement they still chose to see if I was still "legal." Know the law and Carry On!

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    G22Paddy wrote:
    Mistake number 1: Giving them your name.
    Agreed.

    "What seems to be the problem officer?"

    "Am I being detained?" "Am I free to go?"

    and if the answer is that you are free to go....

    go!
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    Sounds a little like intimidation. :X

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    Voice recorder? Get one and use it

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    Since they came to your house after the fact, it sounds like harassment to me.
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    erich please PM me with the names of the Officer or Officers that contacted you, I have a good rapport with Chief Granato and I am sure this is not his position.

    When I first looked into the gun bans in Yakima I was told by an officer that he would cite me for carrying in park and when I tried to discuss them with him he took the attitude of "not wanting to play semantics" lol just happen I was there waiting for the Chief to have a meeting on that very issue.

    I found it refreshing Chief Granato is a supporter of the 2nd Amendment and his position about the parks issue at that time is that they could not enforce the city ordinance prohibiting firearms as it was in violation of State Preemption.

    I later pursued and had all gun ban ordinances repealed and signage removed with his help and the City Council with an added note now Mayor Micah Cawley assistance of helping push this through.

    I still have contact with the Chief from time to time and I would be happy to discuss this with him.


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    RCW 9A.36.070

    What they did was a CRIME.

    Report it as such.


    ***edit*** See also 9A.04.110 (27) (h)

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    Definitely harassment and intimidation. Funny that they state it's your right, but still threaten your CPL status. If there was no report or crime, seems like they just don't like you exercising your right and spreading your radical idealisms to the general public.

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    My only question is how do I get to the farmers market for this coming Sunday and who else is gonna be there?

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    The Farmers Market is held on 3rd St between Yakima Ave and Chestnut.

    I will try and be in contact with the Chief and discuss the open carry issues and see if any more conflict can be headed off.

    Hopefully a training bulletin will arise out of this.

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    you must have missed this thread...

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum55/44337.html
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    Sounds like a trip to Yakima Farmers market is in order.

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    erich_kopp wrote:
    I talked to a police officer at the farmers market and he asked for my name so I gave it to him, we talked about carrying (what I had and what he had) after I left somebody talked to him I guess or he was just being nice to my face. But the two that came to the house were different, I'm not posting their names because I haven't talked to my lawyer about what happened and they said that no complaint was filled so he couldn't give me a case number. But tomorrow I'm going down to that police station to talk to a detective about them coming over and what happened.
    Eric skip the detective and call and asked for Chief Granato, I am sure he will see you.
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    Is there a park near the police station we can have a picnic at? Yakima is fairly central to Washington I bet we can get a fair amount of folks to show up.
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    it makes me think, is there a way to record phone calls without having to put your phone on speaker, also do you need to inform them you are recording in Washington.

    I ask becasue i think it might be a good idea to record any state employees conversation with you especially in a situation like this.

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    I'm sure there is a way to record your calls. Someone will probably chime in with the how-to...

    Washington is a two party consent state. This means you BOTH must consent to the recording of a private conversation, even if the other party is a government worker.

    As many will tell you, this does NOT apply when it is the police while performing their duties on the street. These conversations are not private.
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    j2l3 wrote:
    I'm sure there is a way to record your calls. Someone will probably chime in with the how-to...

    Washington is a two party consent state. This means you BOTH must consent to the recording of a private conversation, even if the other party is a government worker.

    As many will tell you, this does NOT apply when it is the police while performing their duties on the street. These conversations are not private.
    Good to know thanks,



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    Google Voice

    Sign up for a new Google Voice phone number, you can set it up to record, store and transcribe every phone call you make and receive.

    I'm no lawyer... but in WA only one person in the conversation needs to give permission to record a phone call... since you have your own permission, you're covered.



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    ChuckUFarley wrote:
    it makes me think, is there a way to record phone calls without having to put your phone on speaker, also do you need to inform them you are recording in Washington.

    I ask becasue i think it might be a good idea to record any state employees conversation with you especially in a situation like this.
    Lot's of devices out there to record without using the speakerphone but you cannot record a private conversation in WA without the consent of all parties. RCW 9.73.030. If you announce that the conversation is being recorded and the conversation continues then consent will be presumed so long as the announcement is also recorded.
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    daddy4count wrote:
    Google Voice

    Sign up for a new Google Voice phone number, you can set it up to record, store and transcribe every phone call you make and receive.

    I'm no lawyer... but in WA only one person in the conversation needs to give permission to record a phone call... since you have your own permission, you're covered.

    In Washington BOTH parties have to give consent. YOU are one, the person on the other end is the other and also must give consent.
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