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High Cap Mags!

garcia46292

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Ok so I just bought a Walther P99 S&W 40.cal handgun. With it came 3 12rd spare parts mag kits. Now because they dont make the gun anymore the Mags are really expensive to buy. Now is there a way to modify the mag to be Kilifornia legal? or should I buy the $60+ 10rd ones?

The reason I ask this is because I would like to open carry this handgun, and would like to just use the mags I now have. Even though they are high cap and its not illegal to possess them can I use/open carry them?
 

ConditionThree

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garcia46292 wrote:
Now is there a way to modify the mag to be Kilifornia legal? or should I buy the $60+ 10rd ones?

The transfer of the magazines (if they are not disassembled into a parts kit) would be a crime in California. While possesion is not a crime, the seller has violatedthe law by offering magazines forsale that have a capacity greater than 10 rounds.

As far as I am aware, you do not need to do anything to the magazines-you commited no crime inbuying themagazines.However you havent done the former owner any favors by posting the fact on the interwebs.

ETA; It's possible that by purchasing the magazines, a buyer could face charges with conspiracy to commit a crime. I think in the interest of caution, the OP should edit the post to omit certain content or delete altogether.
 

CA_Libertarian

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You could modify them into 10-round mags, but this change has to be "permanent." This means if/when the 10-cap law is repealed you'll have ruined good normal-cap mags.

I'll leave it up to you if they're worth keeping around for when that pig flies.

To elaborate a bit on what C3 said, if you were to build them, it would be illegal as "manufacturing."

So, sounds like your transaction was legal for all parties involved.
 

Decoligny

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garcia46292 wrote:
Well then my next question would be, If they were owned before the ban in 2000 can i open carry with these mags? Or would that be a bad Idea?

Since you said in your original post that you bought them as disassembled kits, this would only by a hypothetical question.

If you owned them prior to 2000, you could use them in whatever way you wanted.

If you wanted to UOC with a 12 round empty magazine in the gun and 12 round full magazines also openly carried, as long as you weren't in a GFSZ or in any other prohibited area, you would be legal.

If you wanted LOC with a 12 round full magazine in the gun and one in the chamber, in unincorporate areas where discharge of a firearm isn't prohibited by law, as long as you weren't in a GFSZ or any other prohibeted area, you would be legal.

But since you DID NOT own them prior to 2000, it is a moot point. Assembling them would be illegal, unless you modified them to accept 10 rounds max.
 

garcia46292

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Ok, well I was planing on modifying them for 10rd only anyways so... Although I have no Idea on how to do that and google search hasn't come up with much. Have any Ideas on how to do that?
 

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garcia46292 wrote:
Ok, well I was planing on modifying them for 10rd only anyways so... Although I have no Idea on how to do that and google search hasn't come up with much. Have any Ideas on how to do that?
A gunsmith should be able to help with that.
 

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garcia46292 wrote:
Ok, well I was planing on modifying them for 10rd only anyways so... Although I have no Idea on how to do that and google search hasn't come up with much. Have any Ideas on how to do that?
From what I have read, you can spot weld in a metal plate, or epoxy in a wood or plastic block that restricts the number of rounds. That in conjuction with cutting the spring, or using a shorter spring, will do the trick and limit the capacity to 10 rounds or less. Just be sure to do the fitting before applying the epoxy. Wouldn't want to make a 9 round mag.
 
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