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Well I received a response.... to being notified that I was thinking of attending, but now will not be because of the policy. I also warned they might want to talk to a lawyer about trying to confiscated someones legal property.
From:
laurin_willis_wmd@msn.com
To:xxxxxxx@hotmail.com
CC:
davidjpeterson@mac.com
Subject: RE: An insult to our rights
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 16:33:42 -0400
.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} William,
Thanks for your note.
The reality is that there is nothing "anti-freedom" inthe ZeroTolerance of the Loudoun Summer Music Fest. We respect theconsitutionally protectedright of the property owner to determine which activities will or will not beallowed on their personalproperty.
The policystates nothingmore nor nothing less.
There is no call for a consitutional amendment for the banishment of the right to bear arms.There is no call to limit the rights of gun-owners.
Theproperty owner is simply exercizing his own constitutionally protected personal property rights; your rights remainfully intact. You may continue to own and bear arms on your own property and all properties where firearms are permitted.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Laurin
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From:
xxxxxxx@hotmail.com
To:
laurin_willis_wmd@msn.com
Subject: RE: An insult to our rights
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 00:40:39 -0500
.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Dear Laurin,
You have a great event, I will be somewhere that respects people rights. For the record, I never argued personalproperty rights did not exist, I pointing out the effect of insulting law abiding citizens by making them have to decide between safety and attending your event. I and many others find that choice an easy one to make, we simply wont be attending.
But that said, I do again suggest you speak to your lawyer(s) before you try and confiscate someones private property. I can only guess how that would go over when you try and take a legally owned firearm from someone, who simple did not catch your anti-self defense policy. I would love to hear how that works out for you. I also hope your also planning on actually protecting the lives of everyone in attendance beings you seem to feel the need to make defenseless.
Cheers,
Will
------------and her double response------------
William
We're changing the wording on both the Innsbrook After Hours and LSMF websites this morning to reflect that people will only be asked to take their firearms/knives/mace/etc. back to their vehicle. We've never confiscated any firearmsin the past, we've always requested they return the weapons to their vehicle. You are correct that it did come offWAY heavier than intended. Our bad there.
If you could please forward our dialogue toyour contacts at carryover, I'd appreciate it.
Naturally, we aren't lookingto make anyenemies andunderstand if those who disagree with our policy choose not to attend.
Thanks,
Laurin
From:
laurin_willis_wmd@msn.com
To:
xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com
CC:
david@davidjmusic.net
Subject: RE: An insult to our rights
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 03:01:13 -0400
.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Will,
Actually,we possiblycan change the wording of the zero tolerance rule for weapons. We don't/won't confiscate anyfirearms; those possessing firearms are simply denied admission to the facility until thefirearms are returned to their vehicle.That could be clarified.
Our policies are not established to insult anyone; they are in place to ensure that every event runs as smoothly and safely as possible for the enjoyment of the entire crowd. We fully understand that there will be those who disagree with certain tenants ofthe statedpolicy andmay decide not to attend because of their point of view. That's an unfortunate fact of life.
We certainlywould neverleave attendees defenseless when attending the Loudoun Summer Music Fest.At every concert there are 8-10 Loudoun County Sheriff'sOffice deputies with commandcenter,25-30 shirted security, and fully operational emergency medical technicians and transporton site continuously ensuring the safety of our patrons. Help is literally moments away from anywhere within the pavilion.
We do not feel that the policy is a decision between safety and attending our event. Situations do arise between patrons and we feelthe policy allows for our deputies and shirted security to enter with a high level of confidencefor their personal safety, for the safety of those involved, and for the safety of the crowd as awhole and that the situation will be resolved as quickly and peacefully as possible.
Our hope is that you will reconsider attendance at the Loudoun Summer Music Fest however we respect your right to make your choices are you see fit.
Thanks,
Laurin