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    Link to story & undoubtedly lots of anti - OC comments from ignorant readers.

    http://www.thenewsherald.com/article...6492640039.txt


    Cartoon attached

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    just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work youre doing, i noticed you just joined in april, you've done a lot of good for OC in your area, keep up the good work bud

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    kyleplusitunes wrote:
    just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work youre doing, i noticed you just joined in april, you've done a lot of good for OC in your area, keep up the good work bud
    Amen to that +1
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    What makes me sick are the comments by the sheeple who think that only cops should carry guns or that we carry guns to compensate for something. I guess they all have liberalitus or craniumrectal syndrome. I feel sorry for those that actually believe thatthe police are going to save their bacon.

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    kyleplusitunes wrote:
    just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work youre doing, i noticed you just joined in april, you've done a lot of good for OC in your area, keep up the good work bud
    Thanks,

    Kyle.

    Next city on the OC "need to be educated" list for me is Southgate.
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    I was pleasantly surprised to find that this article did not have a major left-leaning slant to it. Good article by the people over at the News-Herald. Reported the facts and didn't portray those assembled as wack-jobs that need to be run out of the country because they are one step away from being "white" terrorists.

    That seems to be the message portrayed by the major news outlets. Here's to small town papers that get it right.
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    Hell, one of the commentators went so far as to say only cops carry, and only when on duty. People with police, military, or advanced security training are the exact people who should definitely be carrying everyday, all day long. Those classes of folks should have joined us in accepting the social responsibility long ago and carry everywhere, however they wish to carry.

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    Glock9mmOldStyle wrote:
    Link to story & undoubtedly lots of anti - OC comments from ignorant readers.
    The News Herald online is always one big troll fest in the article comments. At least they make you sign up to post comments now, up until 6 months ago it was even worse with all the anonymous comments. The posters there have no morals.

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    I did see where one of our "supporters" thought that 1.8%="2 out of 10" though...
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    I saw that one too. Maybe he meant 18% which rounded would be 2 out of 10?:what:


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    According to MCRGO site there are 228,228 CPL holders. Base on the estimated Entire population that is about 2.28%.

    If you only include those that are 21 and older then that rate jumps up a bit. I don't know how many people are 21 and older in Michigan but 18 and older is75.7% so about 7,570,000 people are 18 or older so that brings it up to more than 3% which is about 1 in 33 adults.

    The average % of CPLs from all the CPL states is between 2 and 4, so Michigan is in the ball park.
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    Venator wrote:
    According to MCRGO site there are 228,228 CPL holders.Â* Base on the estimated Entire population that is about 2.28%.Â*

    If you only include those that are 21 and older then that rate jumps up a bit.Â*Â* I don't know how many people are 21 and older in Michigan but 18 and older isÂ*75.7% so about 7,570,000 people are 18 or older so that brings it up to more than 3% which is about 1 in 33 adults.

    The average % of CPLs from all the CPL states is between 2 and 4, so Michigan is in the ball park.
    I was actually referring to the statement made by "Speaking out", and I quote: "Most don't realize that 1.8% of the Michigan population has a CCW permit. That means 2 out of 10 people you mingle with in public everday, carry a gun."
    I was not saying his data was accurate or not, just that his post contained an argument which was untenable...his math was the problem. He is correct that a lrge number of people do carry in Michigan, either CC or OC.
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    DrTodd wrote:
    Venator wrote:
    According to MCRGO site there are 228,228 CPL holders. Base on the estimated Entire population that is about 2.28%.

    If you only include those that are 21 and older then that rate jumps up a bit. I don't know how many people are 21 and older in Michigan but 18 and older is75.7% so about 7,570,000 people are 18 or older so that brings it up to more than 3% which is about 1 in 33 adults.

    The average % of CPLs from all the CPL states is between 2 and 4, so Michigan is in the ball park.
    I was actually referring to the statement made by "Speaking out", and I quote: "Most don't realize that 1.8% of the Michigan population has a CCW permit. That means 2 out of 10 people you mingle with in public everday, carry a gun."
    I was not saying his data was accurate or not, just that his post contained an argument which was untenable...his math was the problem. He is correct that a lrge number of people do carry in Michigan, either CC or OC.
    Oh I know, I was just showing off that I found by calculator....right where I last left it.
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    Venator wrote:
    Oh I know, I was just showing off that I found my calculator....right where I last left it.
    HeHe, thats one of the funniest replies i`ve seen in a while

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    Venator wrote:
    According to MCRGO site there are 228,228 CPL holders. Base on the estimated Entire population that is about 2.28%.

    If you only include those that are 21 and older then that rate jumps up a bit. I don't know how many people are 21 and older in Michigan but 18 and older is75.7% so about 7,570,000 people are 18 or older so that brings it up to more than 3% which is about 1 in 33 adults.

    The average % of CPLs from all the CPL states is between 2 and 4, so Michigan is in the ball park.
    Not to mention all the LEOs (on and off duty, most do not have CPLs but still carry so I'm sure that bumps it up too)!

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