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    Gun┬*History


    ┬*

    After reading the following historical facts,

    read the part about┬*Switzerland,┬*twice.


    In 1929, the┬*

    ┬*Soviet┬*Union┬*established gun control.┬* From 1929!

    to 1953, about 20,000,000 dissidents, unable to defend

    themselves, were rounded up┬*and exterminated.

    ┬*------------------------------


    In 1911,┬*Turkey┬*established gun control.┬* From 1915 to 1917,

    1..5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were
    rounded up┬*and┬*exterminated.
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    Germany┬*established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945,
    a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend
    themselves were rounded up┬*and┬*exterminated.
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    China┬*established gun control in 1935.┬* From 1948 to 1952, 20
    million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were
    rounded up┬*and┬*exterminated┬*┬*
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    Guatemala┬*established gun control in 1964.┬* From 1964 to 1981,
    100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were
    rounded up┬*and┬*exterminated.
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    Uganda┬*established gun control in 1970. ┬*From 1971 to 1979,
    300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
    up┬*and┬*exterminated
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    Cambodia┬*established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977,
    one million educated people, unable to defend themselves,
    were rounded up┬*and┬*exterminated.

    ┬*
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    Defenseless┬*people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th
    Century because of gun control:┬*56,000,000!!!
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    It has now been┬*16 months┬*since gun owners in┬*Australia
    were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms┬*
    to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing
    Australia┬*taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.┬* The first
    year statistics are now in:┬*

    Australia-wide:┬* Homicides are up┬*3.2 percent.

    Australia-wide:┬* Assaults are up┬*8.6 percent.

    Australia-wide:┬*┬*Armed robberies┬*are up┬*44┬*percent..

    Victoria-wide:┬* Homicides with firearms are now up┬*300 percent.
    ┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬* (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned
    ┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬* them in,┬*the criminals did not,┬*so┬*criminals still
    ┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬* possess their guns!)

    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
    decrease in┬*armed robbery┬*with firearms, this has changed
    drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals┬*now
    are guaranteed that their prey are unarmed.

    There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and
    assaults of the ELDERLY.┬* Australian politicians are at a loss to
    explain how public safety has decreased, after such
    monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully
    ridding Australian society of guns.┬* The Australian experience
    and the other historical facts above prove it.

    You won't see this data on the┬*U.S.┬*evening news,
    or hear politicians disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property
    and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding
    citizens..

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please
    remind them of this history lesson.

    With guns, we are 'citizens.'
    Without them, we are 'subjects'.

    During┬*WWII┬*the Japanese decided not to invade┬*America
    because they knew most┬*Americans┬*were┬*ARMED!

    ┬*If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control
    message to all of your friends and relatives

    The purpose of fighting is to win.┬* There is no possible victory
    in defense.┬* The sword is more important than the shield, and
    skill is more important than either.┬* No weapon can be properly
    used or wielded without the brain.
    SWITZERLAND┬*ISSUES┬*EVERY HOUSEHOLD┬*A GUN!
    SWITZERLAND 'S┬*GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT TO WHOM
    THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
    SWITZERLAND┬*HAS┬*THE┬*LOWEST┬*GUN-RELATED┬*CRIME
    RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED┬*COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
    IT'S A┬*NO BRAINER, FOLKS!!
    DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS
    IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL┬*LAW ABIDING CITIZENS┬*AN EASY TARGET
    OR WORSE, A CHALK OUTLINE.

    I'm a firm believer of the┬*2nd Amendment!
    If you are too, please┬*forward this note.
    Just consider how┬*powerful our government┬*is getting!
    OUR GOVERNMENT THINKS THESE OTHER COUNTRIES
    SIMPLY DIDN?T DO IT RIGHT.┬* ┬*WELL, LEARN A LESSON
    FROM HISTORY!!┬*
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    I'm curious if you (or anyone) can provide a citation of the exact numbers of violent crimes before and after the ban. Not that I'm doubting the info, I just like to have such specific info cited rather than having such information as anecdotal and internet hearsay.

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    golddigger14s wrote:
    In 1929, the SovietUnionestablished gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20,000,000 dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upand exterminated.
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    In 1911,Turkeyestablished gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1..5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated.
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    Germanyestablished gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded upandexterminated.
    ------------------------------
    Chinaestablished gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated
    ------------------------------
    Guatemalaestablished gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated.
    ------------------------------
    Ugandaestablished gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated
    ------------------------------
    Cambodiaestablished gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated.
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    Defenselesspeople rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control:56,000,000!!!
    These stats don't quite tell the whole story. Most of these countries didn't actually start "gun control" measures in one year and then go about their extermination. For example, Germany started in 1919 and the laws were already in place when Hitler came to power. It just made it that much easier to maintain control. Cambodia, in 1938, followed by the genocides by various factions starting in the late 1960s.

    Point being, the SHTF doesn't happen overnight. The governments were slowly hacking away at the citizen's power long before an evil dictator came in. According to the book, "Death by Gun Control", the total number of victims of genocide by government in the 20th century: 170,000,000.

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    it is all soooooo true,,,,,and there is much more , undocumented....

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    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    The number of deaths under Mao was more like 40,000,000 and even that is a low estimate.

    Now if that was not scary enough... lets listen to the words of current White House "czar," Ronald Bloom who shares his views on economic policy, ideology and politics stating "We know that the free market is nonsense...we know this is largely about power...we kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun..."
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnJy4y6NUX0

    Unfortunately... even my family thinks I'm spewing hate if I bring any of this up... their collective heads are buried in the sand.


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    skiingislife725 wrote:
    golddigger14s wrote:
    In 1929, the SovietUnionestablished gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20,000,000 dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upand exterminated.
    ------------------------------
    In 1911,Turkeyestablished gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1..5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated.
    ------------------------------
    Germanyestablished gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded upandexterminated.
    ------------------------------
    Chinaestablished gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated
    ------------------------------
    Guatemalaestablished gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated.
    ------------------------------
    Ugandaestablished gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated
    ------------------------------
    Cambodiaestablished gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded upandexterminated.
    ------------------------------
    Defenselesspeople rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control:56,000,000!!!
    These stats don't quite tell the whole story. Most of these countries didn't actually start "gun control" measures in one year and then go about their extermination. For example, Germany started in 1919 and the laws were already in place when Hitler came to power. It just made it that much easier to maintain control. Cambodia, in 1938, followed by the genocides by various factions starting in the late 1960s.

    Point being, the SHTF doesn't happen overnight. The governments were slowly hacking away at the citizen's power long before an evil dictator came in. According to the book, "Death by Gun Control", the total number of victims of genocide by government in the 20th century: 170,000,000.
    Sad thing is, these numbers only reflect those that were counted, in place where people care. You know the numbers have to be way higher.
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    It's probably just hard to count that high too. I mean when you're killing fellow Cambodians at a rate eight times higher than that of the Nazis. Or, as you said, they just don't care, like in the "Rape of Nanking", when even the Nazis were disturbed at how brutal the Japanese were being to the fleeing Chinese.

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    This should have something more specific on the history of gun control in the US. Gun control has a rather racist history to it.

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    Yep just google "No Guns for African Americanes" pretty good watch.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    For a more recent and pertinent history, just look up "1934 Firearms Control Act", "1968 Gun Control Act", and "1994 Assault Weapon Ban". Also note which party was in power at the time.

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    JKelly wrote:
    For a more recent and pertinent history, just look up "1934 Firearms Control Act", "1968 Gun Control Act", and "1994 Assault Weapon Ban". Also note which party was in power at the time.
    Don't make me look all that up ..... just tell me what party was in power !!

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    Bersa.380 wrote:
    JKelly wrote:
    For a more recent and pertinent history, just look up "1934 Firearms Control Act", "1968 Gun Control Act", and "1994 Assault Weapon Ban". Also note which party was in power at the time.
    Don't make me look all that up ..... just tell me what party was in power !!
    Don't worry, I'll make it easy for you...

    "1934 Firearms Control Act" - FDR ~ Democrat
    "1968 Gun Control Act" - LBJ (Lyndon B. Johnson) ~ Democrat
    "1994 Assault Weapon Ban" - WJC (Bill Clinton) ~ Democrat

    Of course, this does not get Republicans completely off the hook...
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