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    Are there any known businesses or agencies here in Washington (besides one that actually require their employees to be armed) that do not have a policy against firearm possession for their employees?

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    Gun shops.
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    Where I was working, They dont give a $hit as long as you dont run off an existing or potential customer. Many a day, spent conversationing about guns, looking for the best price on powder, Discussing what our next toy was going to be (Boss's son made way more than me, so he was able to buy his dream toys). In fact, before the economy tanked out here, the boss's son applied for a business license (Guns R Us), and was getting ready toget his FFl license. He was going to open a little gun shop in the back of the mechanic shop. It was our discretion to carry, boss could care less.

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    My employer expects me to be armed everywhere the RCWs allow me to be.

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    olypendrew wrote:
    My employer expects me to be armed everywhere the RCWs allow me to be.
    Wonder why that is
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    Gun shops.
    +1.

    I would think Police Departments, but my spidey sense tells me no. Because that would make sense.
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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    Are there any known businesses or agencies here in Washington (besides one that actually require their employees to be armed) that do not have a policy against firearm possession for their employees?
    Like police, security gaurds, bounty hunters, and private investigaters?
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    I encourage armed employees in my business too. And am armed most the time myself.

    I actually went and bid a job openly carrying the other day. Some nice Indian folks who were surprised we don't need permits and wanted to find out more on what they can do to be armed.
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    My employer just says to follow the law. Now if we could just change that pesky law that prevents me from carrying during work so I do not have to leave it in my car.
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    amzbrady wrote:
    Aaron1124 wrote:
    Are there any known businesses or agencies here in Washington (besides one that actually require their employees to be armed) that do not have a policy against firearm possession for their employees?
    Like police, security gaurds, bounty hunters, and private investigaters?
    Yep. Correct.

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    I work for the State so no gun for me. Not even in my truck.
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    Good idea to encourage businesses to consider this. But I have a question.

    If you have a business that has a business model of going onsite visiting clients at home or at work, or otherwise traveling to a business location - what would be your standing on the possibility that people would become intimidated or turned off?

    I know there are a lot of people that might look down on the idea of concealed carry, but would this be an acceptable alternative?

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    Dem0072 wrote:
    Good idea to encourage businesses to consider this. But I have a question.

    If you have a business that has a business model of going onsite visiting clients at home or at work, or otherwise traveling to a business location - what would be your standing on the possibility that people would become intimidated or turned off?

    I know there are a lot of people that might look down on the idea of concealed carry, but would this be an acceptable alternative?
    Until it is more widely accepted there are time when it may be prudent to conceal. Of course use your own judgement. I open carry every where mostly but if it is new clients I am meeting I will conceal, jobs are tough to come by right now.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Fair enough, I don't own a hand gun but I was invited by a neighbor who does. Good advice, thank you.

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    Hey Gang,

    I guess I'll take this opportunity for a shameless plug for my company Savage Color (we're the folks who print the gun rights pamphlets). When writing our employee manual I included the following:

    "At no time shall any employee be in possession of a firearm on company property UNLESS said employee is legally allowed to be in possession of said firearm under state and federal law. As part of our company culture, Savage Color strongly supports our employees Second Amendment rights and encourages legal and responsible use and ownership of firearms for self protection and the security of all our employees."

    We're a small company, but I still thought it was important to include this statement.

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    markallen wrote:
    At no time shall any employee be in possession of a firearm on company property UNLESS said employee is legally allowed to be in possession of said firearm under state and federal law. As part of our company culture, Savage Color strongly supports our employees Second Amendment rights and encourages legal and responsible use and ownership of firearms for self protection and the security of all our employees."

    We're a small company, but I still thought it was important to include this statement.
    Let us know when you are hiring Mark.... my company won't even let me lock it in the truck in the garage. I think we need to get a bill introduced to allow employees to at least lock them in their vehicle on company property.

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    markallen wrote:
    Hey Gang,

    I guess I'll take this opportunity for a shameless plug for my company Savage Color (we're the folks who print the gun rights pamphlets). When writing our employee manual I included the following:

    "At no time shall any employee be in possession of a firearm on company property UNLESS said employee is legally allowed to be in possession of said firearm under state and federal law. As part of our company culture, Savage Color strongly supports our employees Second Amendment rights and encourages legal and responsible use and ownership of firearms for self protection and the security of all our employees."

    We're a small company, but I still thought it was important to include this statement.
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    I own my own business, so there is no written policy on firearms for employees. I travel a lot (PNW) every week and always carry. Into clients homes, other office buildings, state buildings, etc. There are times when I have job sites in the not so nicest of neighborhoods. I carry, and I would have no problem with my employees carrying, but there would be a discussion beforehand.

    Now, one of my clients who I actually work IN the office multiple days a week as a sub-contractor has a very strict no weapons policy. They know I carry and have zero problem with it, mainly because I have worked there for almost 11 years, and have carried well before the policy was even in place.

    When I am working, concealed... When I am no, open.
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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Dem0072 wrote:
    Good idea to encourage businesses to consider this. But I have a question.

    If you have a business that has a business model of going onsite visiting clients at home or at work, or otherwise traveling to a business location - what would be your standing on the possibility that people would become intimidated or turned off?

    I know there are a lot of people that might look down on the idea of concealed carry, but would this be an acceptable alternative?
    Until it is more widely accepted there are time when it may be prudent to conceal. Of course use your own judgement. I open carry every where mostly but if it is new clients I am meeting I will conceal, jobs are tough to come by right now.

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Dem0072 wrote:
    Good idea to encourage businesses to consider this. But I have a question.

    If you have a business that has a business model of going onsite visiting clients at home or at work, or otherwise traveling to a business location - what would be your standing on the possibility that people would become intimidated or turned off?

    I know there are a lot of people that might look down on the idea of concealed carry, but would this be an acceptable alternative?
    Until it is more widely accepted there are time when it may be prudent to conceal. Of course use your own judgement. I open carry every where mostly but if it is new clients I am meeting I will conceal, jobs are tough to come by right now.
    AMEN! I'm as pro-2nd Amendment as I can be, but my attitude alone isn't going to put food on my family's table...I conceal when on my boss' time (and they're fine with it), open when I can on my time...

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    G20-IWB24/7 wrote:
    ...I conceal when on my boss' time (and they're fine with it), open when I can on my time...
    Roger that.

    We don't have a written policy, but it is widely known by most of if not all that myself and a few others are carrying concealed while on the boss's time.

    I am a PM with the company, so I encourage discreet carry, while at work, and when legal. (Not on Gov job or what have you.)

    Better be to explain to the old man, why one of my electricians is having a self defense court date, than to tell him we have to replace him.

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    I just PM'd Mark above there about printing some more pamphlets for my shop where (another shamelss plug) we encourage open carry, allow it for customers and employees, and we hand out OC pamhplets free of charge to educate the community.
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    I'm sure this comes as no surprise to anyone, but I am disarmed at all times for the criminals pleasure, at, going to, leaving from, and when on the road working.

    There are no options except to park off base in pay parking several blocks away in an unsecured lot, in a high crime area.

    The sad thing is, this area has been acknowledged as being a trouble zone by the command and we have had service members mugged and harassed by the street element while walking to/from mass transit in the area. The most anyone will do about it is to remind people to walk in groups and be aware of your surroundings.

    (sigh) How can a law enforcement agency be so backwards....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCDH View Post
    ...(sigh) How can a law enforcement agency be so backwards....
    It's the US Government, and you're SURPRISED?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    It's the US Government, and you're SURPRISED?
    hehe, Surprised no...sadly enough.

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