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MK wrote:
Rich B wrote:
MK wrote:
accidental discharges can happen by no fault of the gun owner.
Oh really? How do you suppose that would happen?
It could be an equipment malfunction. Like I said though, I wasn't there and don't know in this particular case but the man says he was loading a round. When I was 15, I had a semi auto shotgun accidentily discharge when I was loading it though nothing touched the trigger, so I've seen it happen first hand myself. Its pretty rare but stuff can and does happen from time to time.
Here's an article about an incident involving an accidental discharge that happened during a gun rights picnic by an OCDO member who was arrested for it in Michigan.
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/Gun_fired_at_gun_rights_picnic
Here's one of the threads about it from their state forum.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/31914.html
On page 13 of that thread, the man explains what happened involving his accidental discharge.
MK you've got a lot to learn. Guns don't just "go off".
I read your link. The idiot was trying to clear the gun. Guns "just go off" all the time when this happens. Then the gun is tested and found to be fine.
The idiot should not have been handling his weapon PERIOD. Period period. He was at a picnic, not at a gun range.
This is one of the pitfalls of OC. Some guy comes up and says "nice gun". Next thing you know that idiot is whipping it out trying to clear it so the other guy can look at it. no No NO .
Just so you know we are kindof in the same boat. I was once out bird hunting. I loaded my Beretta 687 over/under with a shell after missing a bird. Snapped the gun and BAM. It went off. I was sure that the gun malfunctioned. I knew I hadn't touched the trigger.
I KNEW I hadn't touched the trigger. So I had the gun inspected. Guess what, there was nothing wrong with the gun. Guess what, Its never done it again in the 15 years since.
Guess what, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that I caused that gun to go off. There is no other logical conclusion.
I screwed up and almost killed my dog. I learned from it. I'm better for it.
99.999% of all ADs are not ADs at all, but NDs or Negligent discharges.
By the way, the guy in the thread you referenced said this:
I pulled the mag out and stuck it in my pocket, then pulled the slide back to unload the chamber (with ALL fingers UNDER the trigger gaurd), as the breech opened the gun went off.
Again, why unload the gun? Leave it in the holster and wear it home. His dad was wearing a loaded glock on the way home so why risk it.
Also, the fact that he would grip the gun with "all fingers under the trigger guard" tells me he is either a novice or poorly trained. So again, I take that account with a shaker full of salt.
As for the guy in Torrington. If he tries to get his permit back, please let me know. I'll show up at the BFPE hearing to testify against him. If the story is as reported, he should be let anywhere near a pistol.