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    sounds like they are requesting moc return for another meeting.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (who will watch the watchmen?)

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    Hahaha. Like I said, if preemption covers it, and y'all want to show up, Im down.

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    army74 wrote:
    The lovely Pontiac City Council has put up no firearms or weapons signs recently does the Pre Emption law¬*¬* deal with that or do i follow it.I thought it was apublic place just curious. I¬* guess there still upset with my last showing there.
    If the city put it up, Preemption covers it.

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    So if this is a new sign, which is against Michigan law, and the City Council authorized the purchase with public funds, after being informed of the law on record, wouldnt it then be knowingly using tax moneyy for illegal purposes? Or more commonly known as criminal misuse of public funds?

    FOIA request may be in order...

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    this should be vastly entertaining

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    Oh, hecky no. Me wants to go back to the Pontiac Council meeting!!! Let's get it together!

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    army74 wrote:
    The lovely Pontiac City Council has put up no firearms or weapons signs recently does the Pre Emption law deal with that or do i follow it.I thought it was apublic place just curious. I guess there still upset with my last showing there.
    What building? Address, etc? Are there court or court offices in the building?
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    Hey Army74, is it the same building we were in? If so, then yes it is covered under preemption.

    If it wasn't a PFZ before then it is not a PFZ now.
    A sign makes no difference.


    Pontiac City Hall
    47450 Woodward Avenue
    Pontiac, MI 48342-5009

    http://maps.google.com/maps?client=s...ed=0CBMQnwIwAA

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    Yes Savage its the same building im going to look at sign and take picture



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    army74 wrote:
    Yes Savage its the same building im going to look at sign and take picture

    Thanks Army74!

    It appears the council didn't take us serious enough and needs a bigger crowd of MOCers to show up. Can you post this up at the members forum too?

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    Double checked and the District Court is at another address.
    This really ticks me off since we personal showed up and gave them OC information that included info on preemption.

    Here is all the contact info I could find on the Mayor and Council.
    I think they need to get flooded with e-mails.


    Mayor Leon Jukowski
    ljukowski@pontiac.mi.us
    phone: (248)758-3136
    fax: (248) 758-3195


    City Council
    citycouncil@pontiac.mi.us
    Phone: 248-758-3210
    Fax: 248-758-3164


    Council President Lee A. Jones - District 6
    ljones@pontiac.mi.us


    Council President Pro Tem Patrice Waterman- District 1
    pwaterman@pontiac.mi.us


    Councilman George Williams- District 2
    gwilliams@pontiac.mi.us


    Councilwoman Mary E. Pietila- District 3
    mpietila@pontiac.mi.us


    Councilman Randy Carter - District 4
    rcarter@pontiac.mi.us


    Councilman Donald Watkins- District 5
    dwatkins@pontiac.mi.us


    Councilman Kermit Williams - District 7
    kwilliams@pontiac.mi.us

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    im removing this thread went by there cause theres a meeting and those signs are no longer there

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    Got me all reeved up, lol!

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    there were signs had some one check it out for me. sry. Maybe we should go to the movie theatre in birmingham lol.

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    So, someone removed the signs?

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    i guess so lol

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    Thanks Army, that was very likely brought about through your experience, and the help of OCers who stood by your side. 3 cheers all around.

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    I bet one of them are a lurker here..

    They realized they were under preemption, and were like "GUYS WE NEED TO TAKE DOWN THOSE SIGNS SO THEY DON'T COME AGAIN!!!"


    Good job guys.
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    Hahaha thats what I was thinking, or perhaps one of those cops who was sent to spy on our liberty.

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    Savage.Detroit wrote:
    army74 wrote:
    Yes Savage its the same building im going to look at sign and take picture

    Thanks Army74!

    It appears the council didn't take us serious enough and needs a bigger crowd of MOCers to show up. Can you post this up at the members forum too?
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