UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE

CaptainDan,

What was the thread? I'm not a member there and have only
gone there once, but would like to read that of which you speak.

You know there are lots of people that go into LE with good intentions
but become callus to abuse of rights perpetrated by LEO's on LAC's.
They become brainwashed into a "us against them" mentality.
They have become a para-military organization,that think they are
above the citizenry.
I know it seems that I am anti-Leo, I am not. I am just against
what they have become.THEY ARE NOT MASTERS OVER
THE CITIZENRY, BUT SERVANTS OF!!!!

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WindsorFox wrote:

Sir, you got exactly what you tried to get. You came to our forum, chose a thread that was particularly volatile and a year old. You replied in an overly accusatory manner to a post made two years ago by a moderator and LEO with your FIRST post ever and you actually expect anyone to take you for anything other than a troll?? I knew full well you were trolling, I just did not come out an blatantly accuse you of it. You admitted it by ignoring my question though. Do you have any clue at all that the over whelming majority of BS' membership are not law officers? Do you care? Have you ever met anyone from the forum? Probably not as you told Cat in no uncertain terms that she did not and never would know you. You purposefully came to that site in order to troll for the type of response you wanted and got it. When you act like a troll you get treated like a troll. You are not as bad, but certainly no better than MEM himself.

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I have been a member here for years and everyone on this site will tell you I am nonconfrontal. Some here know Me as well as My wife personally.I prefer polite conversation to juvenile bickering and my past posts prove it. I have NEVER lowered Myself to the bully mentality and resorted to name calling. I was invited to your site and picked the first thread to post my 2 cents,Didn't read the date but should have, didn't know it was an old topic. Still no reason to act like that. As far as I could tell your site has ONE member willing to conversate in an adult manor , offer an alternate view without name calling or use of vulgar words. When I realized CAT was a female I stopped (One of the ones attacking Me) I left your site and will never be back, I am no troll, I was pushed against the wall so I defended myself then left. A troll relishes such banter and never leaves , I assure youI HAVE HAD ENOUGH. I have no interest in angering ANYONE , again , why I left.

Also Windsorfox, if you would like I would GLADLY meet you personally so as to give you an ACCURATE face to face to tell Me what you think.

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yes, it does matter.
If this once-great Republic (not "democracy) originated in 1791 and the first true "police department" didn't rear it's ugly head for some 40 years later, obviously "law enforcement officers" were not intended to be part and parcel of The Great Experiment.

The reason most DON'T agree with what I teach is it conflicts with their view of reality. To admit my words are correct would be to admit everything you know and believe is false. Pride won't allow it.

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georg jetson wrote:

The lack of LEO education as to their place as defenders of the Const. is understandable given the education of the general population of such things. Leos come from the population of citizens and if the citizens continue to relish in their ignorance of law, then what else can be expected. The solution starts with people realizing that THEY are responsible for knowing the law... period.

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There are good, honest, and intelligent police officers out there who did not go into the job for the money (obviously).

And there are people that became cops because they flunked the ASVAB and their daddy knew the mayor or some such.

Just like ever other profession out there, there is a lot of assumption of knowledge.

Sadly,many cops assume their chain of command will tell them everything they need to know to do the job.

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That site is not as user friendly as ours, possidly why I Didn't notice the date. In a nut shell I responded to a LEO who in his own words said, We often make arrests, scare people etc. knowing the judge will probably dismiss the bogus charges (HE SAID BOGUS, I SWEAR) I basically said (Politely) that was WRONG and no one had the right to bully people under thecolour of law, that was when the flood of curses, name calling and adolescent slurs flooded in.

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I agree 100% about most LEO being what they should and the fact that there are worthless people in every proffession but here lies the problem.

the worthless, somthing to prove , little fella with the superiority complex has a badge to hide behind.

When you say " Bob at the factory is an as*, every one on 3rd shift doesn't rush to his defense , not caring if He's right or wrong. Also when good 'ol Bob screws up He faces consequences (spelling?) possibly losing his employment , What did the officers who held Mark at gunpoint on the pavement in front of his family face?

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georg jetson wrote:

The lack of LEO education as to their place as defenders of the Const. is understandable given the education of the general population of such things. Leos come from the population of citizens and if the citizens continue to relish in their ignorance of law, then what else can be expected. The solution starts with people realizing that THEY are responsible for knowing the law... period.

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There are good, honest, and intelligent police officers out there who did not go into the job for the money (obviously).

And there are people that became cops because they flunked the ASVAB and their daddy knew the mayor or some such.

Just like ever other profession out there, there is a lot of assumption of knowledge.

Sadly,many cops assume their chain of command will tell them everything they need to know to do the job.

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yes, it does matter.
If this once-great Republic (not "democracy) originated in 1791 and the first true "police department" didn't rear it's ugly head for some 40 years later, obviously "law enforcement officers" were not intended to be part and parcel of The Great Experiment.

The reason most DON'T agree with what I teach is it conflicts with their view of reality. To admit my words are correct would be to admit everything you know and believe is false. Pride won't allow it.

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Police Depts.were originally constructs of the states. I don't see logic in your argument there... There is NO authority in the US Const. that allows the Fed to tell a state how to handle their Executive Branch's police power. However, it might be relevant considering federal LE agencies.

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yes, it does matter.
If this once-great Republic (not "democracy) originated in 1791 and the first true "police department" didn't rear it's ugly head for some 40 years later, obviously "law enforcement officers" were not intended to be part and parcel of The Great Experiment.

The reason most DON'T agree with what I teach is it conflicts with their view of reality. To admit my words are correct would be to admit everything you know and believe is false. Pride won't allow it.

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CaptainDan wrote:
I'll tell you exactly where that comes from.

A PD or S.O. shift has to watch each other's backs regardless of whether or not they like each other.

That develops a kind of cameraderie that is hard to describe to non-LEOs.

When off duty, they tend to hang out together, especially younger cops.

And so, rightly or wrongly, they have this knee jerk reaction to defend their own.

Just as you guys on here back each other.

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WindsorFox wrote:

Sir, you got exactly what you tried to get. You came to our forum, chose a thread that was particularly volatile and a year old. You replied in an overly accusatory manner to a post made two years ago by a moderator and LEO with your FIRST post ever and you actually expect anyone to take you for anything other than a troll?? I knew full well you were trolling, I just did not come out an blatantly accuse you of it. You admitted it by ignoring my question though. Do you have any clue at all that the over whelming majority of BS' membership are not law officers? Do you care? Have you ever met anyone from the forum? Probably not as you told Cat in no uncertain terms that she did not and never would know you. You purposefully came to that site in order to troll for the type of response you wanted and got it. When you act like a troll you get treated like a troll. You are not as bad, but certainly no better than MEM himself.

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I have been a member here for years and everyone on this site will tell you I am nonconfrontal. Some here know Me as well as My wife personally.I prefer polite conversation to juvenile bickering and my past posts prove it. I have NEVER lowered Myself to the bully mentality and resorted to name calling. I was invited to your site and picked the first thread to post my 2 cents,Didn't read the date but should have, didn't know it was an old topic. Still no reason to act like that. As far as I could tell your site has ONE member willing to conversate in an adult manor , offer an alternate view without name calling or use of vulgar words. When I realized CAT was a female I stopped (One of the ones attacking Me) I left your site and will never be back, I am no troll, I was pushed against the wall so I defended myself then left. A troll relishes such banter and never leaves , I assure youI HAVE HAD ENOUGH. I have no interest in angering ANYONE , again , why I left.

Also Windsorfox, if you would like I would GLADLY meet you personally so as to give you an ACCURATE face to face to tell Me what you think.

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You may well be non-confrontational here. But your first post at BS was and was accusatory and was a troll, hether you believe it to be or not. You were not attacked, you were treated like a troll. Your post garnered the same reply that you gave Tunatuk If you did not MEAN to be a troll why didn't you reply to some other thread, like the BP bashing etc.? It's obvious you have read little or nothing from the site or you would know your assessment was incorrect. If you are so nonconfrontational as you say then you should try participating in other threads as a community member instead of basing your conclusion on the replies you got when you snapped off at a well known member.

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WindsorFox wrote:

CaptainDan wrote:

WindsorFox wrote:

Sir, you got exactly what you tried to get. You came to our forum, chose a thread that was particularly volatile and a year old. You replied in an overly accusatory manner to a post made two years ago by a moderator and LEO with your FIRST post ever and you actually expect anyone to take you for anything other than a troll?? I knew full well you were trolling, I just did not come out an blatantly accuse you of it. You admitted it by ignoring my question though. Do you have any clue at all that the over whelming majority of BS' membership are not law officers? Do you care? Have you ever met anyone from the forum? Probably not as you told Cat in no uncertain terms that she did not and never would know you. You purposefully came to that site in order to troll for the type of response you wanted and got it. When you act like a troll you get treated like a troll. You are not as bad, but certainly no better than MEM himself.

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I have been a member here for years and everyone on this site will tell you I am nonconfrontal. Some here know Me as well as My wife personally.I prefer polite conversation to juvenile bickering and my past posts prove it. I have NEVER lowered Myself to the bully mentality and resorted to name calling. I was invited to your site and picked the first thread to post my 2 cents,Didn't read the date but should have, didn't know it was an old topic. Still no reason to act like that. As far as I could tell your site has ONE member willing to conversate in an adult manor , offer an alternate view without name calling or use of vulgar words. When I realized CAT was a female I stopped (One of the ones attacking Me) I left your site and will never be back, I am no troll, I was pushed against the wall so I defended myself then left. A troll relishes such banter and never leaves , I assure youI HAVE HAD ENOUGH. I have no interest in angering ANYONE , again , why I left.

Also Windsorfox, if you would like I would GLADLY meet you personally so as to give you an ACCURATE face to face to tell Me what you think.

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You may well be non-confrontational here. But your first post at BS was and was accusatory and was a troll, hether you believe it to be or not. You were not attacked, you were treated like a troll. Your post garnered the same reply that you gave Tunatuk If you did not MEAN to be a troll why didn't you reply to some other thread, like the BP bashing etc.? It's obvious you have read little or nothing from the site or you would know your assessment was incorrect. If you are so nonconfrontational as you say then you should try participating in other threads as a community member instead of basing your conclusion on the replies you got when you snapped off at a well known member.

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How long are you going to continue your assault on Me? I left where I as well as My views were unwelcome and you followed Me, WTF?

Who is trolling who?

Dancing Bear and I as well as others have been conversing for several minutes now and the "F" bomb has yet to be dropped, or did you not notice?

Let's agree to not agree , how bout it?

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yes, it does matter.
If this once-great Republic (not "democracy) originated in 1791 and the first true "police department" didn't rear it's ugly head for some 40 years later, obviously "law enforcement officers" were not intended to be part and parcel of The Great Experiment.

The reason most DON'T agree with what I teach is it conflicts with their view of reality. To admit my words are correct would be to admit everything you know and believe is false. Pride won't allow it.

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Sounds to me the best thing you can do is leave me the hell alone.

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